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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 2:40PM #11
Black_Knight999
Date Joined: Aug 1, 2008
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Personally, I would go with either Kensai or Winterfury.

I don't think Bloodcrazed Berserker or Bloodfury Savage measure up.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 3:20PM #12
Armisael
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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I really need to finish that new barbarian's handbook...explaining that every barb should have Savage Growl, Thundering Howl, and on and on gets soooo tiring after a while.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 3:49PM #13
King_in_Crimson
Date Joined: Dec 5, 2010
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To get a nova pre L13 and Storm of Blades you have to

a) power swap for Rain of Blows (Fighter E3) via the Novice Power Multiclass Feat

b) take the Curtain of Steel E7

c) take the Savage Growl U2

Of course, if everyone follows these advices then all barbarians are 80% the same.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 4:47PM #14
Armisael
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No you don't, don't be silly. You just have to take Thundering Howl.
Mountain Cleave Rule: You can have any sort of fun, including broken, silly fun, so long as I get to have that fun too (e. g., if you can warp reality with your spells, I can cleave mountains with my blade).
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 6:12PM #15
Bob_Ghengis_Khan
Date Joined: Aug 3, 2008
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Assuming a barbarian has one of the elemental damage feats (not weapon focus), why is Thundering Howl so great? It's a double attack sure, but the blast does not get the bonuses from melee attacks (say, Shocking Flame), lightning/frost/whatever elemental damage (feats/dragonshard), and ends up getting simply +enh to damage.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 6:16PM #16
Kroann
Date Joined: Jul 9, 2011
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Dec 22, 2012 -- 3:49PM, King_in_Crimson wrote:

To get a nova pre L13 and Storm of Blades you have to

a) power swap for Rain of Blows (Fighter E3) via the Novice Power Multiclass Feat

b) take the Curtain of Steel E7

c) take the Savage Growl U2

Of course, if everyone follows these advices then all barbarians are 80% the same.




So just so I have it straight how would this nova round play out? 

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 6:50PM #17
Armisael
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2007
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Dec 22, 2012 -- 6:12PM, Bob_Ghengis_Khan wrote:

Assuming a barbarian has one of the elemental damage feats (not weapon focus), why is Thundering Howl so great? It's a double attack sure, but the blast does not get the bonuses from melee attacks (say, Shocking Flame), lightning/frost/whatever elemental damage (feats/dragonshard), and ends up getting simply +enh to damage.




It does. This has been checked by CharOp - it counts as a single melee attack that his a bunch of dudes because of the wonky-ass wording.

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 9:39PM #18
Black_Knight999
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Thundering Howl can seem kind of unimpressive in heroic tier unless you take Savage Growl. The key to Thundering Howl is to use it on AP right after nailing the enemy with Howling Strike (triggering Savage Growl). Most barbarians in heroic tier can't action point to charge the same target, so Thundering Howl gives you a nice AP option, even though it hits for less damage than a vanilla charge attack.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 10:04PM #19
Mengu74
Date Joined: Nov 16, 2007
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Since you use a gouge, are multiclassed fighter, and have the dex for it, at the cost of one feat you have access to Rain of Blows, if you're looking for a nova option.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 11:55PM #20
zelink551
Date Joined: Feb 26, 2011
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Every striker should always be looking for a nova option. Its why Hybrid Barbarians are almost always superior.
The Elemental Man (or Woman): A Genasi Handbook

The Warlord, Or How to Wield a Barbarian One-Handed

The Bookish Barbarian

Fardiz: RAI is fairly clear, but RAZ is different

That's right. Rules According to Zelink!

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