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6 months ago  ::  Dec 24, 2012 - 5:28AM #51
ezrider23
Date Joined: Jan 27, 2009
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Dec 24, 2012 -- 12:11AM, Zathris wrote:

Lightning Weapon overrides Extra typed damage, iirc there's a Cleric daily that adds +Str, though you have the annoying "spend 2 Minors to hand your ally your weapon and then take it back"



Well dealing all lightning isn't all terrible especially with the vuln from Sarifal so not much loss there. Can you remember the name of that daily so i can check it out? Still, too toot my own horn, not a terrible little chain of damage for a low-opper such as myself.

Augment of War is what you're talking about, i believe. Great if i were a straight cleric and not buffing for my own nova but i think even with the damage conversion i think weapon of the gods wins out. I'm already action strapped as is. 

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 24, 2012 - 6:38PM #52
Raegoul
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I think of it this way... MWAO is more helpful than Zathris because he actually answers peoples questions and gets people to think about how to build what they are thinking. Zathris is passive-aggressive in his posts and negative but is usually correct in directing people how to be more optimal. Both entities are useful but one is more positive than the other.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 24, 2012 - 9:23PM #53
Cazzeo
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FWIW, I like MWaO's builds, especially Illusion of Hope.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 25, 2012 - 4:01AM #54
Zathris
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Dec 24, 2012 -- 6:38PM, Raegoul wrote:

I think of it this way... MWAO is more helpful than Zathris because he actually answers peoples questions and gets people to think about how to build what they are thinking. Zathris is passive-aggressive in his posts and negative but is usually correct in directing people how to be more optimal. Both entities are useful but one is more positive than the other.



So being wrong is as useful than being right, so long as you're nice about it.

I am now picturing Adam Savage looking at a car in a Junkyard labeled 'Public Schools' and saying "Well, there's your Problem."

(there, I mustered all the passive agressive snark I could, just because it's christmas!)
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 25, 2012 - 11:28AM #55
Raegoul
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So being wrong is as useful than being right, so long as you're nice about it.

I am now picturing Adam Savage looking at a car in a Junkyard labeled 'Public Schools' and saying "Well, there's your Problem."
(there, I mustered all the passive agressive snark I could, just because it's christmas!)
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Thank you for misconstruing what I said. Your understanding of Christmas is LSM Wink
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