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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:11AM #1
lokiare
Date Joined: Nov 3, 2008
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:15AM #2
Zardnaar
Date Joined: Apr 15, 2001
Posts: 8,350
No. On the plus side its better than the  last one and level 1-10 looks decent for the most part.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:20AM #3
Silver_Blaze
Date Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Posts: 1,341
No.  While it was a vast improvement over the last packet, there is still little 5E has to offer me at this point.  I am not counting on it suddenly becoming a good game.
CORE MORE, NOT CORE BORE!
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:42AM #4
Zaramon
Date Joined: Oct 19, 2012
Posts: 1,426
Assuming this is the foundation for which their system is based off of, then yes.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:48AM #5
Dwarfslayer
Date Joined: Oct 25, 2010
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No. Way too pro-caster for my tastes. No feats or manuevers for high level characters? Come on.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:53AM #6
ElricLikesFighting
Date Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Posts: 146

I love where they're going with class and spell design and balance, I love the emphasis on speed of play, and even to some extent, simplicity at the table (not the simplicity in character creation or a PC's very limited list of abilities). But I really dislike the current presentation of high level play. I don't think it will make for interesting encounters, although I think it will do well to make exploration or RP interesting.


But I wouldn't buy it, and won't if the current trend continues. The bounded accuracy and flat math just kills it for me. I like the idea of slower scaling, but I think this is too far, both with bonuses, and with class options. To me, a 20th level PC feels like he/she should be a 10th level PC. If they bumped up the scaling just a bit, and were willing to slightly increase the options for high level PCs, I'd be on board a lot more.


Basically if you break the game down into tiers, the current game is a great way to make an entire game based on the heroic tier. But most of my campaigns really hit their stride in the paragon and epic tiers, and it doesn't look like Next will do a good job of supporting that.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 2:56AM #7
Admiral-JCJF
Date Joined: Jul 3, 2009
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It feels to me (again, after improving somewhat) that non-casters are being thrown under the bus in favour of the "Casters Uber Alles!" brigade.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 3:16AM #8
Litigation
Date Joined: Jun 10, 2008
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No. Still too much caster fetish going on.
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D&DN Ranger: Third-Fighter, third-Rogue, third-Druid, all useless. With one interesting concept that has its execution botched.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 3:42AM #9
Acrilos
Date Joined: Jun 19, 2004
Posts: 173
No I would not buy it if it was sold in the present state. DD5 is still in its infancy. There is much to do yet.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 18, 2012 - 3:55AM #10
Mr_Treegins
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
Posts: 206

Dec 18, 2012 -- 3:16AM, Litigation wrote:

No. Still too much caster fetish going on.


Partially, I agree.
Still, I would buy D&D Next if it resembled the packet released in 12/17/2012.

In short, nerf the damn "all-tool possessing" Cleric like it was done in 4E and I 'm game.

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