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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:33PM #1
BardicMusic
Date Joined: Dec 17, 2012
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Recently read divine power and really liked the idea of the shielding cleric. Buffing and debuffing and healing and reviving, etc. I really wanted to try this out but I have next to no idea how what constitutes a good support ability.

I was thinking of starting out with.


Level 1

Using no armor and or weapons besides a walking stick (quarterstaff) and clothes maybe a robe.

Race: probably human

Trained in Religeon (automatic), Diplomacy, Heal, History, Insight

At will: Astral Seal, Sacred Flame, ( not sure what 3rd at-will power would be useful)
Encounter: Bane or Exacting Utterance or a divine channeling power that might be good in a support sense.
Daily: Font of Tears

Feats: Pacifist Healer and Combat Medic or Human Perserverance

Level 2 

I would take

Life Transference (mostly for flavor that you can't simply create life from nothing) and Return from Death's Door (auto pass a death saving throw once per day? I'm sold!)

Paragon path of Messenger of Peace

Epic path of Saint 
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:40PM #2
Fardiz
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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Friendly warning, the pacifist cleric is not well thought of on these boards.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:47PM #3
Masterfool
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If you insist on going with cloth armor only at least take the unarmored agility feat at some point. Unconditional +2 AC is a good feat for anyone, and it fits your flavor just fine.

EDIT: Bear in mind that even with that your AC is going to be downright pathetic. Only characters with a primary or secondary dex/int should generally even consider going without heavy armor, and clerics dump both dex and int.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:48PM #4
Fardiz
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Dec 17, 2012 -- 3:47PM, Masterfool wrote:

If you insist on going with cloth armor only at least take the unarmored agility feat at some point. Unconditional +2 AC is a good feat for anyone, and it fits your flavor just fine. 




Mechanically wear chain (or scale) and then refluff it as cloth/divine protection.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:49PM #5
Tech-Priest
Date Joined: Apr 27, 2010
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Simply put: It's a very bad idea. While the concept of a Pacifist Cleric is nice and all, mechanically, it's just NOT worth making/playing one. Play a regular cleric, with BCL, and you'll have decent survivability, heals/buffs/etc, and be decent in terms of power usage as well. Warpriest is another option.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 3:50PM #6
Masterfool
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Dec 17, 2012 -- 3:48PM, Fardiz wrote:

Dec 17, 2012 -- 3:47PM, Masterfool wrote:

If you insist on going with cloth armor only at least take the unarmored agility feat at some point. Unconditional +2 AC is a good feat for anyone, and it fits your flavor just fine. 




Mechanically wear chain (or scale) and then refluff it as cloth/divine protection.




Yes, that is a far superior option. As I said (edited) above, your AC is going to be pathetic without it. 

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 4:09PM #7
BardicMusic
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I can check with my DM on this but then how does an armor check penalty make sense?
Also what book is unarmored agility in? My experience with 4e was a few one shots but thats about it.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 4:12PM #8
Fardiz
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2010
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Your cloth robe gets trapped around your feet, making it harder for you to move fast and your long sleeves make making dextrous checks difficult.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 4:13PM #9
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Dec 17, 2012 -- 4:09PM, BardicMusic wrote:

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Dec 17, 2012 -- 3:47PM, Masterfool wrote:

If you insist on going with cloth armor only at least take the unarmored agility feat at some point. Unconditional +2 AC is a good feat for anyone, and it fits your flavor just fine. 




Mechanically wear chain (or scale) and then refluff it as cloth/divine protection.




I can check with my DM on this but then how does an armor check penalty make sense?
Also what book is unarmored agility in? My experience with 4e was a few one shots but thats about it.




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6 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 4:16PM #10
BardicMusic
Date Joined: Dec 17, 2012
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Okay that's solved. How can I justify being a cleric of a death godess and being a messenger of peace?

If that makes sense at all.

Afterall death isn't usually associated with peace. 
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