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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:00PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 21, 2012
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Yo ppl how are you?
We got a ranger in the group who says he got a top range of forty squares. It seems really odd.
I mean... he is almost a sniper.
Even with the minus bonus, it is still a lot of squares o.O
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:08PM
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If he's using a bow, that's about right, yes.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:09PM
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"Hey guys, it takes you two turns to reach me!"
*Lurkers surprise Ranger and one-round him*
Rest of party: "Huh, sure sucks he was to far away to help. What's for lunch?"
-2 is actually a really big deal. Not all combats are even in open areas where the range matters (that'd be the Dungeons part), and not being able to get Prime Shot bonuses means you aren't being as effective as you could be, particularly in Paragon.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:10PM
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Oct 21, 2012
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Hey Salla  No, that cant be true xD We play using maps and miniatures and 40 squares its a loooooooooooooong shot but if you are saying so... yeah, he uses a bow Yo Alcestis Hm... yeah, I think you are right EDIT: whats paragon and whats prime shot?
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:11PM
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Hey Salla
No, that cant be true xD
We play using maps and miniatures and 40 squares its a loooooooooooooong shot
but if you are saying so...
yeah, he uses a bow
Open your PHB, look at the weapons table. The range for a longbow is listed as 20/40.
If he were using a greatbow, his top range would be 50.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:12PM
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Oct 21, 2012
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Yeah, I know, I just wanted to confirm my reading. Thanks for the fast answer 
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 5:20PM
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EDIT: whats paragon and whats prime shot?
Wow...
So Prime Shot is a Ranger class feature that gives you a +1 to ranged attacks if no allies are closer to your target than you are. Super common tactic: flank an enemy with your defender, provoking an OA. This gives you CA, you have +2 to defenses vs OAs, the mark means the creature has a -2 to hit you, and if they take the OA, the defender gets to punish, and you get your +1 from Prime Shot. Win all around really.
The game is played in three tiers. Heroic Tier is 1-10, Paragon is 11-20, and Epic is 21-30. In Paragon there is a feat that adds +5 damage to attacks you get your Prime Shot bonus to. Rangers are all about stacking static modifiers to damage, so +5 damage is big for them, since it applies to each attack, and Rangers make a minimum of two attacks per round.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 8:44PM
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Date Joined:
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Y'know, in all the time I've played D&D, I think I can still tell you every last occasion where I've ever taken a shot at something from the maximum range of a bow with the serious intention of hitting something rather than just going "Hey, look, I'm shooting at you!"...
At least half of those involved shooting at flying creatures who had just attacked and were in the process of turning around to come back for another pass at the party, because arrows are cheap and there was at least a vague chance to put a little more damage on them before they got back into their attack range.
Spoiler:
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(Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.)
I am the Lawnmower Man.
(I AM GOD HERE!)
I am the Skull God.
(Koo Koo Ka Choo)
There are reasons they call me Mad...
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7 months ago ::
Dec 14, 2012 - 10:11PM
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BTW, count your blessings. In 3e, the longbow had a range increment of 100 feet (20 squares), but could fire TEN range increments (200 squares), and there were a lot of ways to increase that.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 15, 2012 - 4:46AM
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Oct 21, 2012
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Thanks Alcestis, Mad_Jack and Salla for the answers
And Alcestis , I'm from Brazil and I'm writing "technical terms" in a different language. So I didnt know what paragon and prime shot standed for, but now that I read the description, I know exactly what it is. Dont need to do that "wow" thing =)
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