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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 5:04PM #1
Lord_Markelhay
Date Joined: Dec 27, 2011
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What PC races would you like to see introduced in 5e that haven't existed previously, or that only existed as monsters?

Myself, I think an aberrant or demonic race of some sort could be cool. Neither heredity, as far as I know, has been represented in D&D before.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 5:08PM #2
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Dec 11, 2012 -- 5:04PM, Lord_Markelhay wrote:

What PC races would you like to see introduced in 5e that haven't existed previously, or that only existed as monsters?

Myself, I think an aberrant or demonic race of some sort could be cool. Neither heredity, as far as I know, has been represented in D&D before.


The original presentation of the Tiefling (in the Planescape setting) was described as being the progeny of human beings and 'something else'. -- Many of them boasted demonic ancestry.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 7:41PM #3
Saelorn
Date Joined: May 27, 2012
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Haven't ever been playable?  Most of the cool races were covered at some point during 2E.

I'm going to think of something super awesome and then get back to you.

The metagame is not the game.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 7:54PM #4
MechaPilot
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Dec 11, 2012 -- 7:41PM, Saelorn wrote:

Haven't ever been playable?  Most of the cool races were covered at some point . . .



I have to agree with this.  Most of the races were playable at some point.  I don't recall if they were playable before, but I'd like to see merfolk as an official race.  I really love undersea campaigns, and I'd really prefer we get some truly different options other than just slapping aquatic (or other keyword) on elves.

As for things that have never been playable before, I'd like to see a fartouched template or a well done foulspawn race.

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Mar 4, 2012 -- 5:04PM, MechaPilot wrote:

Mar 4, 2012 -- 3:46PM, Warrant wrote:

so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.


Really?  So it goes something like this?

Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well."  Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh.  Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."


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Apr 16, 2012 -- 9:27PM, Frostball wrote:

So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion?  Here's a scenario.  The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land.  They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges.  Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.

Part 1:  I didn't describe any of the hits.  What does he see?

Part 2:  Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up.  What does he see?



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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 7:55PM #5
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All that I have ever wanted is a legit plant race. No, not like Dryad or Wilden; they have other thematic and mechanical baggage. I mean just a plain plant race. Think of it as sort of like how Warforged are just a plain construct race whereas Shardminds were a construct race with additional thematic and mechanical baggage. The Dyrad and Wilden are like the Shardmind here. Just give me a generic plant race already. Treant could maaaybe work if toned down.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 8:02PM #6
zago
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2012
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Neanderthol (if that hasn't been done yet).

Also want a half Halfling... a Quarterling (maybe they could get a d10 short sword)
My mind is a deal-breaker.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 8:42PM #7
Eisenritter
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Neanderthals have been done (3.5, Frostburn supplement).  I want driders.  Or draegloths.  A monster race.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 8:46PM #8
ClockworkPuck
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A symbiote race of some sort.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 8:50PM #9
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Dec 11, 2012 -- 8:46PM, ClockworkPuck wrote:

A symbiote race of some sort.



Yes.  Like the Trill form Star Trek.

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Mar 4, 2012 -- 5:04PM, MechaPilot wrote:

Mar 4, 2012 -- 3:46PM, Warrant wrote:

so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.


Really?  So it goes something like this?

Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well."  Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh.  Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."


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Apr 16, 2012 -- 9:27PM, Frostball wrote:

So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion?  Here's a scenario.  The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land.  They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges.  Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.

Part 1:  I didn't describe any of the hits.  What does he see?

Part 2:  Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up.  What does he see?



Fencing & Swashbuckling as Armor.

D20 Modern Toon PC Race.

Mecha Pilot's Skill Challenge Emporium.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 11, 2012 - 9:05PM #10
rampant
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Meh they're practically devas.

I want a symbiont race that does something cool and creepy, like the venom symbiotes or something. 
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