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6 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2012 - 1:29PM #1
captpike
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if I use Escalation on lightning strike and hit twice do I get to do dex damage to two targets or just one?

Escalation reads:
Trigger: You use a sorcerer at-will attack power.
Effect: You can make one additional creature a target of the triggering attack. If the attack’s range is melee or ranged, the additional target must be within 5 squares of you. If the attack’s range is area or close, the additional target must be adjacent to the burst or blast.

lightning strike reads:
Hit: 1d8 + Charisma modifier lightning damage. An enemy of your choice other than the target and within 10 squares of the target takes lightning damage equal to your Dexterity modifier.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2012 - 1:42PM #2
Plaguescarred
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Two targets. Each target will be dealt the hit line seperatly.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 2:26AM #3
thespaceinvader
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Indeed - lightning strike hits only once, and has only one target.  The secondary damage does not hit.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 7:38AM #4
Kruxe
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I read those powers as interacting to allow up to two targets to take the secondary damage.  The character gets to select two targets for the power.  For each target hit he applies the effects of the hit, in this case the initial damage and the damage to the secondary target.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 11:20AM #5
Sea-Envy
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 2:26AM, thespaceinvader wrote:

Indeed - lightning strike hits only once, and has only one target.  The secondary damage does not hit.




But the whole point of escalation is that you target one extra creature.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 11:32AM #6
Plaguescarred
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Exactly. Escalation effectively modify Lightning Strike as follow:


Lightning Strike
Lightning strikes your foe and then ricochets to another enemy.
At-Will        ArcaneImplementLightning
Standard Action      Ranged 10
Target: One or two* creature
Attack: Charisma vs. Reflex
Hit: 1d8 + Charisma modifier lightning damage. An enemy of your choice other than the target and within 10 squares of the target takes lightning damage equal to your Dexterity modifier.
  Level 21: 2d8 + Charisma modifier lightning damage.
  Storm Magic: You can apply your Storm Power bonus either to the damage roll against the target or to the damage taken by the enemy within 10 squares of the target.

*If within 5 squares 

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 12:14PM #7
Sea-Envy
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of course if you have the esscalation power you won't have the storm magic class feature unless there is some cool cross over feat I don't know about.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 12:23PM #8
thespaceinvader
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FWIW, Escalated Lightning Strike would deal potentially 4 different batches of damage to as few as two targets - the hit line would be repeated for the additional target, in its entirety.  I think I misunderstood the question.

So, if you had 2 enemies (1 and 2) in range and within 5 of each other, you would be able to use escalated lightning strike to attack 1, hit and damage 1, autodamage 2, than attack 2, hit and damage 2, autodamage 1.

That works fine.  You could also autodamage 3 and 4 if you wished instead of focusing fire, but that would be silly.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 2:59PM #9
Jay_Ibero_911
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Of course if you have the dex to make the secondary damage meaningful, then you are probably sacrificing cha or con...
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2012 - 4:09PM #10
captpike
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Dec 8, 2012 -- 2:59PM, Jay_Ibero_911 wrote:

Of course if you have the dex to make the secondary damage meaningful, then you are probably sacrificing cha or con...




the only reason I would consider taking the power is because of minons, one standard action to do good damage to two creature and kill two minions is not bad. and you can do this many times. the character I am thinking about is level 11, so I can do it three times, four at 13.


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