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6 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 10:44PM #131
Miladoon
Date Joined: May 24, 2012
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I'd be happy with a core then a class, background, and theme module.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 10:49PM #132
lokiare
Date Joined: Nov 3, 2008
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Dec 9, 2012 -- 1:32PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Dec 9, 2012 -- 12:53PM, Staccat0 wrote:

I sometimes wonder why people can't just... do it. Maybe I'm confused, but I feel like the current system allows for a LOT of cool improvisational moments of combat. I guess people want it baked in? written on cards? The same as what we have in books on our shelf already?



Yes. I want it baked in. I want it written on cards.




Yeah, but if its written on cards then people will claim they can't do it any other way and ignore entire sections of the rules that explain how to improvise without using the cards... just like 4E...Smile

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 10:51PM #133
lokiare
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Dec 9, 2012 -- 1:42PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Dec 9, 2012 -- 1:37PM, mrpopstar wrote:

We need a tinfoil hat smiley.




In the absence of a "here's what we have for 4E fans" example or even an admission of "we hear you, its coming later" from the design staff, I don't see another explanation. Where there is smoke, there's fire, and though some seem to be in denial there is a lot of smoke.




I'd just report them. Anytime someone uses a label to assassinate your character to win a discussion they are basically trolling...Smile

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 11:54PM #134
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Honestly, I didn't find 4e tactically deep at all. It was much more hack and slash than some deep tactical setup. There were some tactics obviously, but usually playing well was easy enough.

What I liked about 4e was not so much its tactical depth, but its consistency, clarity, and fairness. Everyone was built on a basic system that worked great, the rules were very clear, and the classes were mostly balanced, except for a few crap classes. 
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