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well if you talk of High Level any item that you can use i can use it as well and still your Ability of Greater Dispell is a HIT you need hit the fighter and maybe you can use the same things that the fighter but at her level i don't think so.

At this level I think we will have access to identicle gear really, alright you might take a bastard sword, but that isn't going to really change the outcome dramatically. Scoring a direct hit isn't a big deal, Oma, You are a low level fighter, a couple of buffs and my attack/ac could be better then yours.

4- I dont need cure in Battle, i can overcome may of the Encounter based in the AC and high HP, at the end of the encounter i can cure myself as example teh Paladin NPC level 20 have 175 HP while the paladin only 134 HP almost 1/3 part of more HP

Well it is a good thing a PC Paladin is better equiped then an NPC paladin. The ability to heal in combat is going to make the difference Oma, The Paladin NPC has 134 hp, plus cure spells. besides which, My Paladin can also use a Wand of Cure Light wounds. So I am unsure as to what you are getting at? Most people look at effectiveness during the fight.

So are you saying that your fighter will be unable to employ his vaunted casting during an encounter, because that is a telling weakness.  

5- Not realy relvant in special case situations Oma, I can outmatch you in any number of special encounters. So bringing up antimagic fields and imunities is equally applicable both ways.

6- well maybe you thinks that the dungeon are made to live in there right while a paladin need many days to finish a quest in a dungeon (with many encounters per day) the fighter can do it in a single day, and i was used the SOLO value (1/4 the current average Treasure of CR20).

Level chalenging encounters Oma? I'm sorry,, you aren't going to wade through 10 level appropriate encounters per day any more then my paladin, in fact you will be less likely to survive, simple fact is that I can use consumable magic items as well. As for earning 200,000gp per day soloing? Ya, the DM is putting the encountes on a platter for you? This is an unrealistic expectation that is far, far to out of whack.

But then again, the DM is allowing you exalted feats for free and you are suggesting level 9 scrolls that kill you, I imagine you will cast a few of these and rely on your foolish DM to not read the actual spell. Sorry oma, a whole party isn't going to burn through that many encounters and earn that per day. Take a few more hits on that bong my friend

Jan 24, 2013 -- 1:30PM, MrCustomer wrote:

Level chalenging encounters Oma? I'm sorry,, you aren't going to wade through 10 level appropriate encounters per day any more then my paladin, in fact you will be less likely to survive, simple fact is that I can use consumable magic items as well. As for earning 200,000gp per day soloing? Ya, the DM is putting the encountes on a platter for you? This is an unrealistic expectation that is far, far to out of whack.

But then again, the DM is allowing you exalted feats for free and you are suggesting level 9 scrolls that kill you, I imagine you will cast a few of these and rely on your foolish DM to not read the actual spell. Sorry oma, a whole party isn't going to burn through that many encounters and earn that per day. Take a few more hits on that bong my friend

1- I was talking about the ability to disrupt the use of magic items or cast under your ability of Smite Evil, and again your Counterspell with your Dispell Magic is too low and can't affect High Level Scrolls, but is right the Concentrarion is Low but i can jump, Climb and Swim like the hell although I used the mecanus armor.

2- Then you will make my free of use other kind of Scrolls, and this depend of the stage you are asuming that the stage let move very easy, and if you dont run or use your mount you are always in my range, and remember this

Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act. Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.

3- remember that you can't attack in melee with a reach weapon that make my use a lot of useful tactics in melee again you without feats and at level 6 the standard paladin have +7 in her range touch attack while a fighter in Defence have an Standard AC of 17 again touch attack in her Defencive fighting mode (this waste a standard action).

4- Then at level that you can use Greater Dispell Magic I can use it as well and do the same and i have the same access for magic items that you, and yes is a fighter what you think i was made a superman???? i was saying that a fighter with 8 of cha can use Use Magic Divice and still Work Normal and can use well the skill when you was saying that a fighter like that can't do nothing and are under the average

5- Ok in low level as example level 4 you don't have any chance, at level 6-8 what you going to do kill the fighter with your large amount of spells??? you going to do melee or ranged and the fighter can do it better that you

6- The Figther NPC have almost 1/3 part more that HP of an Paladin this is the Same with a PC the fighter will have more HP and yes you can cure yourself and waste spells  and this to emulate the amount of live of the fighter.

7- Is the Same Exist A lot of Stanges when the fighter can overcome your paladin very easy

8- lol you talk about Solo Mission while this not are supported in the game the EXP and Treasure amount are based in a party (remember a lot of treasure in a single player unbalance the game) and this still support the fact that the fighter use more consumables that a Healer to cure himself.

9- and for free??? i was made the prerequisites under the rules it gain it officially, and like your Subtitution level thats have prerequisites and under your own book your need some special action to qualify in the order, your order is to small to have the full description but the general descrition say that at last you need fulfill some criterias, and you only going to stay in temples or in quest to found ancient magic not with your party members doing what he want.

Jan 24, 2013 -- 2:35PM, Alsebra wrote:

Jan 24, 2013 -- 2:23PM, Oma012 wrote:

2- Then you will make my free of use other kind of Scrolls, and this depend of the stage you are asuming that the stage let move very easy, and if you dont run or use your mount you are always in my range, and remember this

Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act. Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.

How is finding a more advantageous position in order to duel not honorable?  If you were losing in a one-on-one fight, Oma, wouldn't you find a way to turn the battle in your favor?

Use a Necromantic Spell to weak your opponent is Honorable for a paladin ???? (this automatic break her Code Of Conduct)

Run from the fight until this is over is Honorable for a paladin??? (This depends on the circumstances) and in a duel not is Honorable.