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6 months ago ::
Nov 29, 2012 - 5:57PM
#11
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Date Joined:
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1- in high levels this bonus is very useful because can stack whit other bonus.
and many character are based in wis with the feats zen archery and intuitive attack many high level character have a minimum of +2 of wis that can be used as a extra +2 AC for all non melee combatants.
2- o sorry i was used 5-6-5... instead of 4-5-4.... in the calculation the this item then as the Max standard only cure 27 hit points in a single day while a wand cure 250 hit poinst almost 10 times as standard and all character may select put ranks in UMD to use it. while the belt can only be used be you in a encounter then if you fall the wand become more useful that the belt.
1. Zen Archery is along the lines of Weapon Finesse, in that they both benefit characters that are already packing a decent stat. That's not to say that a Fighter couldn't take Zen Archery (and have a higher Wisdom than Strength), but, since a Fighter generally has a higher Strength, Zen Archery is useless.
I can't find Intuitive Attack and so cannot comment on it.
2. I'd much rather put a wand in the hands of those that can make use of them (and put belts on characters that can't) than cross-class UMD to make a wand somewhat useful (it'd take a total of 22 skill points to even have UMD be a 50/50 shot on a character with average Charisma).
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6 months ago ::
Nov 29, 2012 - 6:51PM
#12
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Date Joined:
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Alsebra, the belt you can't find is the Monk's Belt. It's in the DMG under "Belt, Monk's".
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 7:07AM
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I agree, UMD as a cross skill for lower Charisma Classes with few Skill points (low Int and few points per level), paying twice the cost and being limited to half the Maximum ranks in that skill, is not benificial.
A level 9 Fighter with 8 Char (-1) would have to spend 12 Skill points to get max 6 ranks in UMD, (level 9+3)/2 max cross-skill, for a Skill Check of +5
And then there is getting a wand out, while in combat, with a sword and shield..... certainly not practical
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 9:14AM
#14
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2011
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1- in high levels this bonus is very useful because can stack whit other bonus.
and many character are based in wis with the feats zen archery and intuitive attack many high level character have a minimum of +2 of wis that can be used as a extra +2 AC for all non melee combatants.
2- o sorry i was used 5-6-5... instead of 4-5-4.... in the calculation the this item then as the Max standard only cure 27 hit points in a single day while a wand cure 250 hit poinst almost 10 times as standard and all character may select put ranks in UMD to use it. while the belt can only be used be you in a encounter then if you fall the wand become more useful that the belt.
1. Zen Archery is along the lines of Weapon Finesse, in that they both benefit characters that are already packing a decent stat. That's not to say that a Fighter couldn't take Zen Archery (and have a higher Wisdom than Strength), but, since a Fighter generally has a higher Strength, Zen Archery is useless.
I can't find Intuitive Attack and so cannot comment on it.
2. I'd much rather put a wand in the hands of those that can make use of them (and put belts on characters that can't) than cross-class UMD to make a wand somewhat useful (it'd take a total of 22 skill points to even have UMD be a 50/50 shot on a character with average Charisma).
You can make a fighter based in Wis to have good will save and good fortitude save and have a good ranged and melee attack at the cost of the damage You fight by faith more than brute strength. BoED pag 44PrerequisiteBase attack bonus +1, BenefitWith a simple weapon of your size or a natural weapon, you may use your Wisdom modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls. SpecialA fighter may select Intuitive Attack as one of his fighter bonus feats. ??? -And yours don't know the Items that boost skills??? a non epic +30 conpetence bonus cost only 90 000 gps, +20 cost only 40000 gps and +10 cost only 10 000 gps, this mean that a warrior with cha 8, and level 8 will have a bonus of +14 in her UMD then he have a chance of use the scrolls of the wizard of the party (Lv1 65% ,Lv2 55% ,Lv3 45%,lv4 35% )or use all wands with a 70%-80%
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 12:34PM
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ya, you could make a fighter that sucked at his job, I agree
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 1:36PM
#16
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2011
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ya, you could make a fighter that sucked at his job, I agree
human Fighter level 8
Str 16 +3
Dex 10 +0
Con 14 +2
Int 12 +1
Wis 14 +2
Cha 8 -1
Feats
H- Able Learner
1- Nymph Kiss
3- Heroic Destiny
6- Fearless Destiny
F1- Exotic Weapon Proff (Goliath Greathammer)
F2- Weapon Focus (Goliath Greathammer)
F4- Weapon Specialization (Goliath Greathammer)
F6- Improved toughness
F8- Greater Weapon Focus (Goliath Greathammer)
Items
MW Full Plate Mechanus gear +2 (5900 Gps)
MW Goliath Greathammer +1 (2330 Gps)
Ring Of Protection +1 (2000 Gps)
Cloack of Resistan +2 (4000 Gps)
Item +10 UMD (10000 Gps)
wand of Cure light wounds (750 Gps)
Amulet of Nat Armor +1 (2000 Gps)
20 Gps
Hp: 73 (Survive an acid pit trap CR 8)
BA +8
Initiative +0
AC: 24 =10+12+1+1 Touch 11 FF 24
Saves: F +10, R +4, W +6
Attack MW Goliath Greathammer +1 (+14/+9) damage 1d12 + 7
Skills
Climb +5 = 11+3-9
Jump +5 = 11+3-9
Swim -4 = 11+3-18
Use Magic Divice +16 = 5-1+2+10
Tumble -4 = 5+0-9
Autohypnosis +7 =5+2
Spot +6 =4+2
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 2:52PM
#17
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Date Joined:
Sep 25, 2005
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Are you ****ing kidding us, Oma?! That's a HORRIBLE build, which means that you just confirmed MrC's comment of "a fighter that sucks at his job". Plus, how many of those skill points did you pull out thin air? Answer
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Literally every single one not assigned to the first 3 skills, that's how many.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 3:35PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2011
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Are you ****ing kidding us, Oma?! That's a HORRIBLE build, which means that you just confirmed MrC's comment of "a fighter that sucks at his job". Plus, how many of those skill points did you pull out thin air? Answer
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Literally every single one not assigned to the first 3 skills, that's how many.
So do a better building
This warrior can tank, can help in melee, can help the cleric to cure or help the wizard with the spells.
at have a lot of more option at high levels with the use of magic
at high level he can use scrolls like Giant Size, Transcend Mortality
and at level 8 he can use Greater Invisibility.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 4:38PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 25, 2005
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And you still haven't said how he got all those skill points.
Besides, I have made better builds; Hanzo Hattori, for one. Granted, he's built as a crafter, but he can still fight. Or Kris the Sadomasochist, or any Lockdown build. You made a fighter that (ignoring the skill points) can do many things, but none of them well.
"Today's headlines and history's judgment are rarely the same. If you are too attentive to the former, you will most certainly not do the hard work of securing the latter." -Condoleezza Rice
"My fellow Americans... I've just signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. Bombing begins in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan
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Buttler of the House of Trolls
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6 months ago ::
Nov 30, 2012 - 4:48PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2011
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And you still haven't said how he got all those skill points.
Besides, I have made better builds; Hanzo Hattori, for one. Granted, he's built as a crafter, but he can still fight. Or Kris the Sadomasochist, or any Lockdown build. You made a fighter that (ignoring the skill points) can do many things, but none of them well.
????? you dont know the feats right???
Human + 1 skill
Nyph's Kiss +1 skill (not X4 at level 1 only 1)
warrior +2 skills
Able Learner CC cost only 1 rank.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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