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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 6:31PM #21
HappyShinigami
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So there is a martial feat called leading the attack?
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 6:47PM #22
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Seriously, dood? It's spelled out for you in TWO of Andarious' posts. Martial Study is the feat; Leading the Attack is the name of the maneuver taken with the feat. Please try to keep up.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 6:54PM #23
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The level thing does confuse me which is why I asked. Ublike my friend I don't understand mages to well and don't understand how all that raises it. For bloodlines lets say youre level 20 does that mean that the 20 levels of bloodlines gets added to spells or only the 3 that you had to spend exp for? Also I'm going major in efreeti since it's more fire oriented and fits a bit more. Is this a good choice
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 6:54PM #24
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Sorry just a tad bit new I will try
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 6:55PM #25
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Sorry just a tad bit new I will try
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 7:17PM #26
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For bloodlines, you only get the "levels" you pay for. A major bloodline will end up giving you +3.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 10:36PM #27
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I get it now :-) so if I had 1 trickster and 6 legacy that'd be 7 bonus with the 3 bloodline making a huge 10 just from them
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 29, 2012 - 11:20PM #28
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Nov 29, 2012 -- 10:36PM, HappyShinigami wrote:

I get it now :-) so if I had 1 trickster and 6 legacy that'd be 7 bonus with the 3 bloodline making a huge 10 just from them


That's almost right, except that the very first level of uncanny trickster (and the 1st and 7th levels of the legacy champion) don't give any advancement for class features. 

Bloodlines don't have any "dead" levels like that, but they also don't give you any additional Hit Dice.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 12:07AM #29
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Bloodline levels only give you 3 things: the boosts in the tables, added max skill ranks, and added class-level based abilities. Check out my Hattori Hanzo build or Tempest's Ashardalon Reborn build for ideas on how to incorporate bloodline levels.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 6:34AM #30
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What book are those maneuvers and srances in? Because I coukdnt find the maneuvers (could've over looked it) and why take trickster 1 than? Isn't there a better pick
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