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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 9:02PM
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I've been looking around to help a friend out with his build and it sounds really fun. What his intentions are is to make not a op class but a fun class, but not a useless class. Unfortunately for him they're are some big players her. I'm player the "nuker" build we also have a psion rogue and warrior. But this doesn't spell the end for him because warlocks aren't pathetic and we don't fight eachother. So any ways to make a good hellfire warlock to keep him strong and fun? I've looked around but they're are billions of builds on warlocks
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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 9:03PM
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Nov 16, 2012
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Oh side note its a level at first 32 bp and no house rules all books allowd and for 3.5
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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 9:03PM
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Nov 16, 2012
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Its a level one at first with 32 bp*
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 12:41AM
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#1 trick: any of the Trickster classes out of Complete Scoundrel and/or Bloodlines from UA will increase the hellfire blast ability. One level of Binder (pact with Naberius) allows you to circumvent the ability damage.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 5:20AM
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Man they sound soooo cool with melee now that I hear about they're powers. Maybe not op or broken but DAM teleporting and using a fire like sword and all that SO FLASHY I LOVE IT
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 6:04AM
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Nov 16, 2012
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The bloodlines seem like they aren't really worth it for the amount you'd have to spend on them. When you cango human and gain a extra feat and 4 extra skill points.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:01AM
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#1 trick: any of the Trickster classes out of Complete Scoundrel and/or Bloodlines from UA will increase the hellfire blast ability.
It's just the uncanny trickster that has advancement for any class feature, isn't it?
The bloodlines seem like they aren't really worth it for the amount you'd have to spend on them. When you cango human and gain a extra feat and 4 extra skill points.
Since they're added onto whatever race you already have, it's not like you have to miss out on the regular human benefits. But what you really gain in this case (as draco indicated) is being able to count the bloodline levels when calculating any character ability based on class levels.
In this case, that allows you to count as having more than the usual limit of three class levels of hellfire warlock when calculating the power of a hellfire blast (which adds 2d6 damage per class level).
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 9:06AM
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Nov 11, 2012
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 9:28AM
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Legacy Champion from Weapons of Legacy and Uncanny Trickster from Complete Scoundrel both advance any class. RAW even PRC's beyond their normal cap (advancing expressed, at each level, or at every X level abilities), this is arguably not RAI.
The bloodline thing is from Unearthed Arcana, and yes, you can be a human with a Greater Vampire Bloodline and get all the goodies from both, you effectively lose a bit less than 3 levels worth of XP and can choose when you lose it. The loss of HP can be a real problem especially in early levels so do it cautiously, most of your other losses will be made up for by the bloodline abilities.
Since you need 12 ranks in Knowledge the Planes to even become a Hellfire Warlock look into a build that gets the first level of Uncanny Trickster and or Legacy Champion before you enter Hellfire Warlock, also grab that Binder level early as well. Tempest built something like this one time.
Binder 1/Warlock 6/Uncanny Trickster 1/Legacy Champion 1/Hellfire Warlock 3/+5 Legacy Champion/+2 Uncanny Trickster/+1 Warlock
He used Illumian for the improved CL which ups your damage. Sigils were Vaul and Krau.
This build needed a 14 Int and focused mostly on Dex after that, Cha and Con coming nect in priority, it dumped Str and Wis.
Feats included Martial Study (for Leading the Attack), Weapon Finesse, Combat Reflexes, Enhanced Power Sigils, Goad, Martial Study (Defensive Rebuke), Martial Stance (Thicket of Blades)
Effectively this is an AOO tank build that uses a big bad eldritch glaive for damage, and Beguiling Influence along with the Diplomacy as a class skill thing to be a party Face as well.
Best of luck.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 29, 2012 - 8:48AM
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Nov 16, 2012
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What woild be some feats to invest in?
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