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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 9:32PM
#21
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May 23, 2012
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Most of the "best" mages don't blast. In fact a large portion of the local crowd would likely agree that most of the more useful Wizards do not actually deal any damage to win fights.
That said, these are builds that do their best to keep pace with high damage melee builds, and can provide utility as well. More than that, they can usually create circumstances that allow them to best mundane attackers by outpositioning or being neigh undetectible in some cases.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 4:58AM
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Nov 16, 2012
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Ya I noticed, kinda figured attacking would be all that useful since combat is sometimes only 10% or less of a campaign. Well eith that being sad ik sorry for asking such a ridiculous question. But I will lool into those classes.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 5:00AM
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Nov 16, 2012
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Omg small keypads suck! With* I'm* and look*
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 1:02PM
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Slow down your post rate a little. Its a forum. I'm looking for just a greay damage output. Something that can kill bosses easily. Mage preferbly and I'm not to picky on what it is. I heard warlocks were one of the best to build off of. But want to see if the comunity knew of some op multiclass builds
- A mage should generally never multiclass. Thats one of the first rules of optimizing them.
- Warlock is generally considered a low power arcane class.
- Blasting is generally considered a bad tactic.
If you want to blast, I'd point you to something like a sorcerer 20 (prestige class as much as possible without missing caster levels), who takes 1 evocation spell known at most each level. Does shooting fireballs sound like something that is appealing to you?
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 1:23PM
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Slow down your post rate a little. Its a forum.
I'm looking for just a greay damage output. Something that can kill bosses easily. Mage preferbly and I'm not to picky on what it is. I heard warlocks were one of the best to build off of. But want to see if the comunity knew of some op multiclass builds
- A mage should generally never multiclass. Thats one of the first rules of optimizing them.
- Warlock is generally considered a low power arcane class.
- Blasting is generally considered a bad tactic.
All of this is very, very good advice. Listen to this.
If you want to blast, I'd point you to something like a sorcerer 20 (prestige class as much as possible without missing caster levels), who takes 1 evocation spell known at most each level. Does shooting fireballs sound like something that is appealing to you?
This, on the other hand?
Look, most evocations are inefficient, even by the very low standard set by general direct damage. No, Orbs are good. If you want damage, read this. If you want to be a wizard(Also know as the actually good caster), read this and this.
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Flamboyant Flamer of the House of Trolls
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 2:46PM
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Jun 15, 2012
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Sorcerer is by far better for blasting then wizard for one. They have Arcane Fusion (and the greater version), as well as the ability to apply metamagic on the fly. Also wings of flurry is probably one of the best area blasting spells there are, considering you can daze lock large groups of enemies, or just outright kill them with your uncapped force damage.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 5:22PM
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Nov 16, 2012
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Ok I'm loving the god mage build. Any good ones? I like. Being the buffer andor debuffer of the party.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 6:39PM
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I'm a big fan of choosing divination as your wizard specialization. Give up evocation, gain an extra divination spell at the beginning of the day for each slot. Use your extra divinations to figure out what you're going to fight that day. Prepare the rest of your spells accordingly. Get everything you'd want out of Evocation from Conjuration and Illusion anyways.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:37PM
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Jun 15, 2012
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Forcecage is evocation for what that is worth.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 7:41PM
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May 23, 2012
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Shadow Evocation, Greater can make most people think they're in a force cage, if you really need it. Anyone with the will save to pass the disbelief is probably capable of escape anyway.
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