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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 9:40PM #1
ducky88
Date Joined: Apr 15, 2012
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How do you kick someone out that you don't want to play?
 
The person that we don't want to play wants to take over as the DM with no clue about what needs to be done and he wants to kick out 2 players because they are women what to do?
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 9:44PM #2
Centauri
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Nov 24, 2012 -- 9:40PM, ducky88 wrote:

How do you kick someone out that you don't want to play?
 
The person that we don't want to play wants to take over as the DM with no clue about what needs to be done and he wants to kick out 2 players because they are women what to do?


Be as mature about it as you can. Try to be upfront about it, and truthful. Treat this person as you'd like to be treated if the situation were somehow reversed.

DO NOT try to handle it through the game itself. Don't be subtle. Don't let prejudice against your friends go unanswered.

Good luck.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 9:50PM #3
Zaramon
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Nov 24, 2012 -- 9:40PM, ducky88 wrote:

How do you kick someone out that you don't want to play?
 
The person that we don't want to play wants to take over as the DM with no clue about what needs to be done and he wants to kick out 2 players because they are women what to do?




You probably can't legally do what I would like to do in this situation. What I would do in this situation if I were you, was firmly tell him he's not coming back, and you're not going to hear any argument on the subject. Let him know in no uncertain terms that his time with your group is over. If this player was in my group, my response wouldn't be any nicer than "F*** off, you mysogynistic little s***.

When in doubt, see the advice post above mine.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 10:27PM #4
KColette
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I second all of Centauri's advice.

Make it perfectly clear that the player is NOT welcome in the group and exactly WHY they are not welcome. Make it clear that they won't be allowed back until they've changed.

But don't shout or the like. Remain calm and make it clear that the decision to kick this player out was reached after careful consideration and discussion with the rest of the group. Make it clear that you're making a decision for the betterment of the entire group, NOT out of anger.

EDIT: I mean not out of anger at them as a person. Letting them know you hate their attitude and won't accept it is fine. Just be sure they know you hate what they DO, not that you have a vendetta against them.

Believe me, I've seen quite a few bad egg players who will assume they're being kicked out due to unrational hatred, rather than because the player in question is a ****.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 10:53PM #5
ducky88
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thanks for your advice everyone
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 1:54AM #6
red_tanker
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Where are you playing?  Someone's house / gaming store / online / other?

As that can effect things a little.

Be up front, calm and honest.  Point out that the group games for fun and you (and the group) think the problem-person leaves, for the good of the others.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 7:26AM #7
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The best way is the Spartan way!


...but Centauri's advice is good too.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 7:58AM #8
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Don't do it at, during, before, or after a session. Do it in person on a day that isn't the normal DND day. Don't do it at anyone's house. Do it somewhere public. Meet up at a starbucks or a gameshop. If things go poorly, you can always leave. Be clear, and polite about why they aren't invited back and make it clear there is no room for debate. "We have decided we don't want you to come to any more sessions. Our playstyles are too different, and it just isn't/won't work out." 

For the sexism BS, if its worth it to you to make a point you can include a bit about how "We don't tolerate sexism in any form, and to kick players because of their gender is way over the line. There is no coming back from that." If its not worth it to you (because you won't ever see them again, and you know it will cause a bigger scene than you are comfortable with) don't. 

If you do it during/before the session, your session for that day will be ruined and quite possibly won't happen. If you do it after a session, the session will be lame (because everyone knows it doesn't "matter" anyway) and awkward as everyone tries not to give it away early. Plus you end up with some "special" people who take this poorly, rant, rave, refuse to leave until they get your way.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 9:59AM #9
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Since our games are always at my place, I just say "Dude, get out of my house." There's an advantage to being the host. I don't have to tolerate people like that. 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 25, 2012 - 11:19AM #10
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Yeah, at some non-game-day, just send him a message telling him that he's a chauvanistic clueless (swear word of your choice) and that you never want to see him again.
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