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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 4:18PM
#251
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Please don't harass the poor man, people.
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 4:22PM
#252
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Please don't harass the poor man, people.
I'm not going to harass him. I did ask about employment and told him I hope he gets better.
I don't dislike him on a personal level. I just think on a professional level that he makes questionable choices...
Edit: Besides its entirely likely that he saw my user name of Lokiare and insta-banned/ignored me or whatever twitter has...
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 7:14PM
#253
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The Wizard and vancian magic is definitely the elephant in the room for WotC. Going back to the roots of D&D has to address this in every aspect of character creation. So far- their solution is pretty well intended and innovative.
However, I think it will be next to impossible to keep the Wizard from out shinning the other classes with vancian magic.
The trick will be to minimize this to the lowest degree and keep it old school.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 7:17PM
#254
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The Wizard and vancian magic is definitely the elephant in the room for WotC. Going back to the roots of D&D has to address this in every aspect of character creation. So far- their solution is pretty well intended and innovative. However, I think it will be next to impossible to keep the Wizard from out shinning the other classes with vancian magic. The trick will be to minimize this to the lowest degree and keep it old school.
I still don't understand why the overall design & mechanics of the game have to suffer so greatly to "keep it old school"...is not logical...Is like having a cancer tumor you don't want to remove because you get too attached to it...
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 7:21PM
#255
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Just letting everyone know, I sent some of those tweets for people, but he never responded to me. Probably has been bombarded over the past few days. I don't want to harass Mike, so I will just wait to see what he says. Will just have to wait and see.
CORE MORE, NOT CORE BORE!
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 8:50PM
#256
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I still don't understand why the overall design & mechanics of the game have to suffer so greatly to "keep it old school"...is not logical...Is like having a cancer tumor you don't want to remove because you get too attached to it...
The purpose of the 5th edition is to get old/lapsed players back, not attract new ones.
Thus creating an homage to archaic tropes, some of which are out-dated. However if those tropes are sacred cows to enough of the lost player base, it serves the intent of the game to include them.
I have an answer for you, it may even be the truth.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 9:55PM
#257
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We want to play D&D and D&D needs its iconic things. Period.
Otherwise I´d play something different!
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 9:59PM
#258
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We want to play D&D and D&D needs its iconic things. Period.
Otherwise I´d play something different!
As long as those iconic things aren't forced on people who don't want them, then by all means include them.
Why Mechanics-Alignment Integration is Bad
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
D20 Modern Toon PC Race.
Mecha Pilot's Skill Challenge Emporium.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 10:13PM
#259
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We want to play D&D and D&D needs its iconic things. Period.
Otherwise I´d play something different!
As long as those iconic things aren't forced on people who don't want them, then by all means include them.
How far do you take that?
Nothing is forced. Tastes will differ. If people hate elves, they aren't being forced to play D&D.
A few guidelines for using the internet:
1. Mentally add "In my opinion" to the end of basically anything someone else says. Of course it's their opinion, they don't need to let you know. You're pretty smart.
2. Assume everyone means everything in the best manner they could mean it. Save yourself some stress and give people the benefit of the doubt. We'll all be happier if we type less emoticons.
3. Don't try to read people's minds. Sometimes people mean exactly what they say. You probably don't know them any better than they know themselves.
4. Let grammar slide. If you understood what they meant, you're good. It's better for your health.
5. Breath. It's just a dumb game.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 10:19PM
#260
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We want to play D&D and D&D needs its iconic things. Period.
Otherwise I´d play something different!
As long as those iconic things aren't forced on people who don't want them, then by all means include them.
How far do you take that?
Nothing is forced. Tastes will differ. If people hate elves, they aren't being forced to play D&D.
Elves are not forced. Elves are presented but not automatically integrated to other parts of the system. For example, you don't have to be an elf to be a ranger. You are free to ignore the race with no mechanical implications. This cannot be said of all iconic things. Two of the biggies are alignment and vancian magic. Which is why it's great if these things can be present for those who want them but not be forced on those who don't.
Why Mechanics-Alignment Integration is Bad
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so why even play a fighter if you can play the paladin the exact same way behaviorally and get added power to boot. "Paladin" is about accepting better game-enhancing mechanics at the price of more rigid in game behavior.
Really? So it goes something like this?
Fighter: "I want to be a paladin."
NPC: "Really?"
Fighter: "Yes."
NPC: "Very well." Starts reading from a holy book while still in-character "Do you accept having to choose and stick to the lawful good alignment, eventhough neither of us actually knows that it exists or what it is?"
Fighter: "I do."
NPC: "Do you reject good game balance because you accidentally rolled a high Charisma?"
Fighter: "What?"
NPC: "I don't know what it means either."
Fighter: "Oh. Umm, ok I do."
NPC: "In the name of all that is metagamey and broken, accept these better game enhancing mechanics."
Fighter: "These what?"
NPC: "Just get out there and try to fulfill a million different people's notion of good while not violating and part of any of them."
So the system is designed such that every single hit needs to be described to avoid confusion? Here's a scenario. The players are nudists, everybody in the world are nudists, it's not weird, it's totally normal in this land. They are naked and they fight drakes taking damage throughout, but healing up with surges. Later they meet the guy who raised the drakes.
Part 1: I didn't describe any of the hits. What does he see?
Part 2: Lets say I described the drakes as biting the players, yet they healed up. What does he see?
D20 Modern Toon PC Race.
Mecha Pilot's Skill Challenge Emporium.
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