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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 12:10AM
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That statement was necessary and also has nothing to do with the alignment system of the game.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 1:00AM
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That statement was necessary and also has nothing to do with the alignment system of the game.
Yes, it does; if you're refering to the portion of your OP that I emboldened. It refers to the Lawful (Justice- in the legal sense) and Good axes of the game's alignment system.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 1:55AM
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wel in my mind there are 2.
1) the warior that is so pure and honerable that he atracts the atention of the gods, and some gods bestowing him with gifts ( paladin abilities) while evil gods activly try to tempt and corrupt one that is so pure ( this is the one where the lawful good alignment restriction might apply)
2) a combat specialised priest of a fait that has need for them often gods with domains like war and protection the protector of the faitfull. these can be of any alignment depending on the alignment of the god they follow.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 1:57AM
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Alright, since my other thread that tried to deal with this got derailed into one of the most pointless discussions ever, I'm going to try this again.
Is the Paladin a "Holy warrior"/"champion of a specific diety" type character who follows the principles of the God he serves OR is a Paladin someone who upholds justice and good. Always does the right thing and has swarn to destroy evil wherever it is found? He serves the forces of good and not necessarily any one specific good diety. OR Is the Paladin both/the Paladin class can represent both ideas without the need for another class OR Should both of these concepts be represented with different classes.
Also anyone who mentions alignment shall be smited. Please just discuss the above without going into the alignment debate.
I would say both. I see a paladin as a crusader, meaning they need a cause. The specifics of that cause is unimportant, in itself, but it must be all consuming and probably impossible to ever accomplish. The divine stuff works well with this rationale 'cause gods always have a cause, but you don't really need a god to have a cause. The thing that makes this different for a paladin than other people is that cause is a thing they are devoted to. Everyone's got goals, but not everyone lets their ideals dictate them. Most people are more pragmatic than that. "Not I" says the paladin, who dives in headlong without consideration for anything else. The greater goal is everything.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 2:06AM
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A paladin is Lawful Good incarnate. They are as much a symbol as a person. They have a Code, that they do not break. They fight for justice, and oppose tyranny. They inspire hope in the righteous and downtrodden, and fear in the hearts of those who devote themselves to evil. Superman is what happens when a demigod becomes a Paladin.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 2:09AM
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Depends on setting.
In the waking world?
A Paladin is one of the 12 peers of Charlemagne, the most puisant warriors in service to the an authority both Secular and Sacred.
In Forgotten Realms and Ebberron they are the super-soldiers for their respective religions.
In Dragonlance they don't really exist, but the closest you get are members of an archaic and pseudo-religious order of knights.
In Dark Sun the really don't exist.
In my view, they are the Militant arm of a religious of philosophical movement. Often to a fanatical level. Unlike the priest who leads people in veneration and gives moral advice, they exist to protect the faithful and be the sword of their beliefs. Thier service neccessitates a willingness to die and heavily implies a willingness to kill... even if doing so seems antithetical to their belief system.
I have an answer for you, it may even be the truth.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 3:46AM
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A paladin is Lawful Good incarnate. They are as much a symbol as a person. They have a Code, that they do not break. They fight for justice, and oppose tyranny. They inspire hope in the righteous and downtrodden, and fear in the hearts of those who devote themselves to evil.
Superman is what happens when a demigod becomes a Paladin.
And what about Evil Paladins?
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 3:48AM
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And what about Evil Paladins?
Evil paladins are lawful good incarnate! Sheesh, haven't you been paying attention? :D For serious though, that's why I think of paladins as crusaders that are free of any one specific baggage. They do need baggage though. Like a lot of baggage.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 3:50AM
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A paladin is Lawful Good incarnate. They are as much a symbol as a person. They have a Code, that they do not break. They fight for justice, and oppose tyranny. They inspire hope in the righteous and downtrodden, and fear in the hearts of those who devote themselves to evil.
Superman is what happens when a demigod becomes a Paladin.
And what about Evil Paladins?
They're not Paladins, they're Blackguards/Fallen Paladins.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 3:52AM
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A paladin is Lawful Good incarnate. They are as much a symbol as a person. They have a Code, that they do not break. They fight for justice, and oppose tyranny. They inspire hope in the righteous and downtrodden, and fear in the hearts of those who devote themselves to evil.
Superman is what happens when a demigod becomes a Paladin.
And what about Evil Paladins?
They're not Paladins, they're Blackguards/Fallen Paladins.
Says who? You? Despite the fact D&D has always had non-Lawful Good Paladins?
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