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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 5:58PM
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Feb 22, 2012
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Alright, since my other thread that tried to deal with this got derailed into one of the most pointless discussions ever, I'm going to try this again.
Is the Paladin a "Holy warrior"/"champion of a specific diety" type character who follows the principles of the God he serves OR is a Paladin someone who upholds justice and good. Always does the right thing and has swarn to destroy evil wherever it is found? He serves the forces of good and not necessarily any one specific good diety. OR Is the Paladin both/the Paladin class can represent both ideas without the need for another class OR Should both of these concepts be represented with different classes.
Also anyone who mentions alignment shall be smited. Please just discuss the above without going into the alignment debate.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:04PM
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Nov 19, 2007
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I see the paladin as the "hands" of his deity. He follows the tenets of his faith, and works to fight against his deity's enemies. If he doesn't have a specific task at the moment, he would work for justice and good, lending aid where it's needed. He's the holy warrior.
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:11PM
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Personally, I believe that the paladin is the person who believes so strongly in doing what is right that it manifests as tangible effects that harm evil and heal the innocent. If there is a good deity in the setting, then those powers may or may not have been granted by said deity in order that good might have a powerful champion, but in any case the paladin does what is right because it is right and not because some nigh-omnipotent being told her to.
The thing with the really good deities, though, is that they don't really care if you do good in their name, as long as you're doing good.
Contrast with, say, a cleric who always seeks to promote the deity and its specific goals, rather than being devoted to the higher cause which that deity serves. There's a lot of overlap in actions that they would take, but the motivation is different.
The metagame is not the game.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:12PM
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Go with the cause of good part I suppose.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*
*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:28PM
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I see the paladin as the second part of the initial post. Why do you ask? How much sense would a Paladin of Vecna make if he/she is supposed to be Good/Lawful to be a Paladin? I would support a variant of the paladin, the templar, as the warrior servant of their deity's will...
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:30PM
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A paladin is a good deity's warlock.
Orzel, Halfelven son of Zel, Mystic Ranger, Bane to Dragons, Death to Undeath, Killer of Abyssals, King of the Wilds.
Constitution Based Class for Next!
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:33PM
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A paladin is a good deity's warlock.
lol My favorite so far.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:33PM
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Then, if a Paladin is a good deity's warlock...what is a neutral or evil deity's warlock...or don't they care to have one...
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:34PM
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A paladin is a good deity's warlock.
lol My favorite so far.
I kind of like it myself. 
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 6:35PM
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Nov 19, 2007
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Then, if a Paladin is a good deity's warlock...what is a neutral or evil deity's warlock...or don't they care to have one...
Just call it a holy warrior of [Deity]?
In memory of wrecan and his Unearthed Wrecana.5e should strongly stay away from "I don't like it, so you can't have it either."
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