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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 3:33PM
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Religion and politics are wonderful concepts utterly ruined by humanity's countless flaws.
True - but lets not get into this!
Fair enough indeed.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 7:03AM
#212
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You say that the people who don't undesrtand or misuse alignment are the one to blame for problem with alignment. I also see some of you suggest that they make a book just for explaining alignment to people.
Could you instead play the game without alignment? What would remove alignment do to make your game worse? Would you notice it is gone? Why?
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5 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 8:28AM
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You say that the people who don't undesrtand or misuse alignment are the one to blame for problem with alignment. I also see some of you suggest that they make a book just for explaining alignment to people.
Yes, it is those players and DMs who take alignment to their most negative extremes (the player of the LG Paladin who send the party rogue to the authorities because he picked a pocket) and those who believe that the character HAS to act a certain way because of the chosen alignment (the player of the CN bard that helps the party one second and stares a butterfly the next) that are to blame for the problems with alignment. Use alignment as a guideline rather than a rule and there are far fewer issues with the system.
Could you instead play the game without alignment? What would remove alignment do to make your game worse? Would you notice it is gone? Why?
Obviously, there would be little consequence to not using alignment as there are many RPGs that do not have it in their system. However, as alignment has been part of D&D since day one, not having it in D&D might be an issue. Further, all the alignment based spells and abilities would have to be removed as well.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 8:35AM
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If something cause problems from Day One for many people, and other systems have been created since that time which are more refined and better (like maybe how they get rid of THAC0, right?), is tradition the only reason to keep alignment in the game? Why would to remove it be an "issue?"
Would your game be made worse if you (or Wizards) removed alignment base spells and abilities? Or would you just carry on with little change?
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5 months ago ::
Jan 09, 2013 - 9:10AM
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You say that the people who don't undesrtand or misuse alignment are the one to blame for problem with alignment. I also see some of you suggest that they make a book just for explaining alignment to people.
Yes, it is those players and DMs who take alignment to their most negative extremes (the player of the LG Paladin who send the party rogue to the authorities because he picked a pocket) and those who believe that the character HAS to act a certain way because of the chosen alignment (the player of the CN bard that helps the party one second and stares a butterfly the next) that are to blame for the problems with alignment. Use alignment as a guideline rather than a rule and there are far fewer issues with the system.
I'm happy to acknowledge that alignment can work. So can a game in which wizards, druids and clerics are easily, almost accidentally made more powerful than fighters, yet that's an issue that is fixed anyway. Skill challenges are almost universally reviled, despite the fact that they can work as written.
It's not enough to blame a problem on "bad DMing." Some problems have deeper issues, and alignment is one of them. I think it's mostly just that people tend to have strong feelings about morality and control, but even if that's all it is alignment must, at long last, be written to take that and other issues with it into account. Or dropped completely.
The next edition of D&D is at least planned right now to be "modular," meaning DMs can easily use it (since it will, insanely, be in the "core" rules) or drop it out. We'll see if that pans out. Even if it doesn't, and even if I wind up playing that edition, I can always decide that alignment is fixed, and not tied to one's moral choices, just like skin color.
[N]o difference is less easily overcome than the difference of opinion about semi-abstract questions. - L. Tolstoy
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