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7 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 9:03AM
#11
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Certainly the Skeletal Tomb Guardian bestows an extra ten points of damage every time he attacks a creature with Faerie Fire (even if the attack isn't a conventional melee attack).
Why?
However, I am inclined to thing that when the Half-Orc Thug attacks someone adjacent to a creature with Faerie Fire that the extra ten damage is inapplicable.
Why would this be different? Both cases the creature with faerie fire attached is the target of an effect, but does that count as the target of an attack (as is the wording on Faerie Fire).
Fireball only adds ten extra damage if the creature with faerie fire is in the target square.
Again, why? Fireball says to choose a square, it in no way mentions targeting a creature, so even if the Faerie Fire creature is in the target square, going strictly by the rules it is not being targeted by an attack (the square is, not the creature).
All of these depend on wether you would consider being the target of an effect (which in all cases is true) counts for the same thing as being the target of an attack. Thoughts anyone?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 11:09AM
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The guardian will add the damage if it attacks the creature with faerie fire, but not if the primary target is another creature as it is not targeting the ff creature.
The half-orc thug (and copper dragon) deal indirect damage to those around the primary target, so if the ff creature was not the primary target it would not suffer the extra damage.
And I agree that fireball targets the square not the creature so would not trigger ff either. However the dracolich's triple attack does target each creature so would trigger ff.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 11:24AM
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Jun 20, 2003
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The guardian will add the damage if it attacks the creature with faerie fire, but not if the primary target is another creature as it is not targeting the ff creature.
The half-orc thug (and copper dragon) deal indirect damage to those around the primary target, so if the ff creature was not the primary target it would not suffer the extra damage.
And I agree that fireball targets the square not the creature so would not trigger ff either. However the dracolich's triple attack does target each creature so would trigger ff.
All of this is what I was thinking as well, but I would still like to see some confirmation. Or maybe some more clarity on what exactly constitutes being the target of an attack.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 12:10PM
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Oct 23, 2002
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The extra damage dealt by Skeletal Tomb Guardian is not an attack, and is therefore not boosted by Faerie Fire. An attack is one of those abilities with a Sword or Bow symbol next to them, or another ability that defines itself explicitly as an attack, like Horned Devil's or Umber Hulk's.
If it was an attack, Skeletal Tomb Guardian would read "Whenever you do a melee attack, you do (Sword)20 to another adjacent creature" or something similar.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 2:45AM
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To be the target of an attack, first the attacking creature has to use an ability that requires a target and second it has to use an ability that specifies "make an attack. (Basic attacks count.)
Fireball meets neither condition as it says "choose a square" and "deal 30 damage...". however burst attacks like the guardian's, the copper dragon's and the half-orc thug's target one creature with an attack and deal damage to creatures that meet the indicated conditions without targetting them.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 02, 2012 - 4:31PM
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Faerie Fire states "Attacks that target this creature deal +10 damage".
Cards that deal with attacks typically say the word attack.
Sacrifice says "....make a melee attack that deals +30 (melee)". This specfically calls it an attack.
Skeletal Tomb Guardian's ability says "Whenever this creature makes a melee attack, it deals 20 damage to each other enemy creature adjacent to this creature". The damage for this is dealt, it's not an attack; therefore, Faerie Fire will not boost it.
That's my understanding of it.
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