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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 3:31AM
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If there was anyone still holding out hope for a new 4e product, they should look upon the the 2012 D&D Holiday Gift Guide and despair. There isn't a single 4e product on their list. Yes, it's been a long time since there were any new 4e products, but the Essentials items were supposed to be "evergreen" at least (ha ha ha ha ha!) and 5e won't hit the shelves until at least 2014. The WotC strategy moving forward seems to be to support old editions (this makes me happy because I still play all the old editions on a semi-regular basis) at the expense of 4e (this makes me unhappy because 4e is my preferred edition). I love old school D&D and I'm enjoying playing D&D Next, but WotC is making the same old mistakes of throwing the current edition (and its supporters) under the bus. It's also quite telling that novels and board games make up 50% of the gift guide. No room for one single 4e book? Not even a rules compendium? I feel sorry for all those FLGS owners who still have plenty of 4e products on their shelves and were maybe hoping to sell some of them this Christmas season.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 9:36AM
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See "Bus, 4e thrown under a"
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:06AM
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See, "has no more customers" as in screwed them all over.
I have plenty of gift ideas, they're just not going into WotC's pocket apparently. Too bad for them, but no biggie for me!
That is not dead which may eternal lie
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:09AM
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See, "has no more customers" as in screwed them all over.
More accurately, "has no more customers" as in not providing anything for them to buy.
We want to give you our money, dammit.
D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:11AM
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See, "has no more customers" as in screwed them all over.
More accurately, "has no more customers" as in not providing anything for them to buy.
We want to give you our money, dammit.
Yep, this is more accurate.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:22AM
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Does anyone else feel like this is just like the death knell of 3rd Edition and the misguided marketing campaign for 4th Edition all over again? "Yeah, that last edition of the game sure sucked! We know you all hated it! No more of those crappy books! No sir! How about some edition-neutral stuff? No? Well, this new edition is going to be everything you ever wanted in D&D! We guarantee it!" Wizards has learned nothing. They could still be making money, selling 4E product, and have chosen to screw over anyone who wants more material for their 4E games. There are plenty of class builds, character options, monsters, and other "crunch" that could be put into books and sold. But nope, they have decided to put all effort into a product that is more than a year away. Fail.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:32AM
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See, "has no more customers" as in screwed them all over.
More accurately, "has no more customers" as in not providing anything for them to buy.
We want to give you our money, dammit.
Actually at this point I'd rather reward the people that are still making products that I do want. Got a nice 4e PDF, Admiral o' the High Seas today. I could go buy some of the 4e WotC stuff I'm still missing, and I probably will eventually, but frankly I'd rather put the money in someone else's hands at this point. That is people that support the product I am interested in. They may provide less and maybe even lower quality, but at least they listened to what I wanted.
So far WotC has at some point pissed off pretty much everyone that was ever a customer in a vain quest to do better. Let it go. I'll be happy now if they just give up and stop and pass the torch.
That is not dead which may eternal lie
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 10:47AM
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eh, i would have been more surprised if there were 4e products in it
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 1:08PM
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If anyone's interested, there's two great new 4e PDF's available:
Admiral of the High Seas (lots of goodies about running ships)
Midgard Bestiary for 4th edition (some cool monsters and NPC's)
Both are definitely worth the cash.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 1:11PM
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eh, i would have been more surprised if there were 4e products in it
Given their past history, you're right, but I'd hoped they learned something from the past.
I'm surprised they didn't at least put in some of the Essentials books. At the very least a Rules Compendium, DM Kit and Heroes of the Fallen Lands. That's just 3 things they could have put in there that would help FLGS move product and/or support 4e.
The lack of these items speaks volumes about WotC plans for the future of 4e.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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