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7 months ago ::
Nov 24, 2012 - 9:58AM
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As a costumer and a 4e enthusiast, I feel insulted. And I am not putting any money on Next on release until I am certain it won't be thrown out the window in some other four or five years.
There are very good 4e products that could have been included in the Gift Guide. I expected to see the Neverwinter Campaign Setting and at least, a DM's Kit + Monster Vault combo. Or one of the frickin' best 4e adventures: Madness at Gardmore Abbey.
Way to go, Wizards of the Coast. Spitting on our faces.
And then you wonder why sales drop?
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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 4:17PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 27, 2009
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I checked out Mezo and it was just a book of ideas, like Vor Rokuth.
actually, vor rukoth has 4e items, monsters, and a killer battle map with it, all for like a third of the list price of menzo. the only real comparison you can make between them is that neither product is an actual adventure, although i daresay that you can run vor rukoth as a sandbox as-is, as the majority of the text is keyed locations on a map. vor rukoth actually contains 4e specific crunch, and just completely obliterates menzo as far as utility and creativity. menzo is just an embarrassing money-grab, spare and sparse compared to the actual 2e menzo box set (which you can still find for cheaper than the menzo book).
i would take a second look at vor rukoth; any 4e dm worth their salt can get a lot out of that little product.
Hmm, I suppose I was looking for encounters and actual adventures. It was a while ago when I was still learning so maybe I'll take another look.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 26, 2012 - 12:46PM
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Date Joined:
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I checked out Mezo and it was just a book of ideas, like Vor Rokuth.
actually, vor rukoth has 4e items, monsters, and a killer battle map with it, all for like a third of the list price of menzo. the only real comparison you can make between them is that neither product is an actual adventure, although i daresay that you can run vor rukoth as a sandbox as-is, as the majority of the text is keyed locations on a map. vor rukoth actually contains 4e specific crunch, and just completely obliterates menzo as far as utility and creativity. menzo is just an embarrassing money-grab, spare and sparse compared to the actual 2e menzo box set (which you can still find for cheaper than the menzo book).
i would take a second look at vor rukoth; any 4e dm worth their salt can get a lot out of that little product.
I agree with the Vor Rukoth love. I also really like Hammerfast. Everything ready to go, all you have to do is pick the adventure hooks you want to use and you've got 5 to 10 levels worth material to work with. I've always felt that Vor Rukoth and Hammerfast were two of the most underrated 4e products. When they cancelled that series I could have cried.....
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The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 28, 2012 - 7:36PM
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Date Joined:
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I checked out Mezo and it was just a book of ideas, like Vor Rokuth.
actually, vor rukoth has 4e items, monsters, and a killer battle map with it, all for like a third of the list price of menzo. the only real comparison you can make between them is that neither product is an actual adventure, although i daresay that you can run vor rukoth as a sandbox as-is, as the majority of the text is keyed locations on a map. vor rukoth actually contains 4e specific crunch, and just completely obliterates menzo as far as utility and creativity. menzo is just an embarrassing money-grab, spare and sparse compared to the actual 2e menzo box set (which you can still find for cheaper than the menzo book).
i would take a second look at vor rukoth; any 4e dm worth their salt can get a lot out of that little product.
I agree with the Vor Rukoth love. I also really like Hammerfast. Everything ready to go, all you have to do is pick the adventure hooks you want to use and you've got 5 to 10 levels worth material to work with. I've always felt that Vor Rukoth and Hammerfast were two of the most underrated 4e products. When they cancelled that series I could have cried.....
I agree- Vor Rukoth and Hammerfast are good, small priced products. I even liked the $9.99 race books on the Dragonborn and Tieflings. Hammerfast was in black and white but had a ton of great ideas. I was especially happy to see the three headed dragon (Calathrax?) make it into the Nentir Monster Vault.
Mearls wrote Hammerfast- for someone who is now actively set on destroying 4th edition he sure was an instrumental part of some of its greatest moments.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 9:52AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 12, 2010
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Do you think at some point they'll provide a class or race compendium? Or a Dragon/Dungeon collection of 4e content?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 4:52PM
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Do you think at some point they'll provide a class or race compendium? Or a Dragon/Dungeon collection of 4e content?
I'd say there's a 0% chance of that ever happening
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