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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 3:52AM
#21
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I looked upon it.
I am in despair.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 1:11PM
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Date Joined:
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Sadly, 13th Age doesn't feed my needs right now that 4e D&D does...(13th Age is not the 4e's Pathfinder, is it's own diferent kind of beast and feel, wish is something i can respect, because i see Pathfinder as plagium)
13th is good very casual RPG system i am looking forward thought, and i am actually going to use 13th age to introduce some people into the world of tabletop RPGs
It isn't 4e's Pathfinder, and that's why I love it. It holds the spirit of 4e while being its own entity. If I wanted a 4e clone, I'd play 4e. 
I know...i just...want more 4e crunch content...that isn't essentials...except hexblade, i love freaking hexblade...
I do, too. However, I want to keep spending money on new material. 13th Age is the best candidate for that since DDN seems to be moving further and further away from the people that have been feeding them money for the last 4 years.
Moving on to a new system isn't unreasonable for me. 13a gives me something fresh while keeping me happy with the stuff I want from an RPG (what 4e has been providing).
So, yeah. I want new material for 4e, too. I'm not going to get that. That means that it is time to move on from WotC unless DDN extends some serious olive branches to the 4e fans.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 1:58PM
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Date Joined:
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The one good thing about a finished game system at least is that I finally feel comfortable house-ruling things I thought could be better without having to worry about how some future release is going to affect the balance of those house-rules.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 2:50PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2008
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The one good thing about a finished game system at least is that I finally feel comfortable house-ruling things I thought could be better without having to worry about how some future release is going to affect the balance of those house-rules.
A little dose of "on the bright side"? Yeah, I can be down with that too. I just wish some really underdeveloped classes could get some love.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 5:57PM
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Date Joined:
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Supposedly, next year they are going to start releasing their back catalog as PDFs.
I'll be real interested in seeing if that includes 4E.
"The world does not work the way you have been taught it does. We are not real as such; we exist within The Story. Unfortunately for you, you have inherited a condition from your mother known as Primary Protagonist Syndrome, which means The Story is interested in you. It will find you, and if you are not ready for the narrative strands it will throw at you..." - from Footloose
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 6:28PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 23, 2008
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I'm pretty disgusted with Wizard's treatment of 4th edition. I can't even bring myself to buy dungeon command- odds are they will discontinue that in 6 months.
With how they have handled 4th edition since D&D Next was announced I for sure do not want a damn thing to do with D&D Next (nor anything with Mearl's name on it).
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 7:01PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 27, 2009
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Yes I noticed this and feel they missed out on promoting some really good products they currently have.
I think the Dungeon Survival Handbook (DSH) was the last 4e book they produced. Mezoberranzan came out after and was edition neutral. The DSH being the last 4e product, I feel they put a lot of effort into it as it was a last hurrah for 4e. I found it one of the best products they have produced and enjoyed it a lot. All the history, plenty of flavour and crunch. It gave me a new appreciation for the Underdark and I went and bought that book afterwards. I checked out Mezo and it was just a book of ideas, like Vor Rokuth. Not really worth the money and could have been done in a PDF on DDi.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 10:08PM
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Nov 13, 2004
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I'm just surprised that WotC is abandoning publishing new RPG content for over a year. I suppose their hope is that dropping off the radar will make the Next 'reboot' a bigger event.
Well, if you don't want my money, it will go elsewhere. No trolling or grumbling; I am merely no longer a customer or even an interested party. I've got a reasonably complete RPG to play with out of 4e, which is more than other fans of 'finished' RPGs can say.
4e D&D is not a "Tabletop MMO." It is not Massively Multiplayer, and is usually not played Online. Come up with better descriptions of your complaints, cuz this one means jack ****.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 8:22AM
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I checked out Mezo and it was just a book of ideas, like Vor Rokuth.
actually, vor rukoth has 4e items, monsters, and a killer battle map with it, all for like a third of the list price of menzo. the only real comparison you can make between them is that neither product is an actual adventure, although i daresay that you can run vor rukoth as a sandbox as-is, as the majority of the text is keyed locations on a map. vor rukoth actually contains 4e specific crunch, and just completely obliterates menzo as far as utility and creativity. menzo is just an embarrassing money-grab, spare and sparse compared to the actual 2e menzo box set (which you can still find for cheaper than the menzo book).
i would take a second look at vor rukoth; any 4e dm worth their salt can get a lot out of that little product.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 11:15AM
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For all intent and purposes D&D is shelved until 5e comes out in 2014. This is no surprised.
Some might say that D&D products are still being made, and that is true, but no new RPG products will be sold, which is the real barometer for shelving.
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