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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 1:16PM
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eh, i would have been more surprised if there were 4e products in it
Given their past history, you're right, but I'd hoped they learned something from the past.
I'm surprised they didn't at least put in some of the Essentials books. At the very least a Rules Compendium, DM Kit and Heroes of the Fallen Lands. That's just 3 things they could have put in there that would help FLGS move product and/or support 4e.
The lack of these items speaks volumes about WotC plans for the future of 4e.
Thought on the otherside, it could also means that those books and reprints are not selling at all and they need to sell them to avoid loses, i hope so... I know people don't care enough Menzoberranzan book to even pirate it (because there is no book selling chart site like in other kind of media markets, i use the amount of piracy to the interest of popularity of D&D books)
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 2:13PM
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That's just 3 things they could have put in there that would help FLGS move product and/or support 4e.
The Holiday gift guide is an advertisement for WotC's newest products. WotC is not making new 4e products.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 3:06PM
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That's fine. Pelgrane Press (13th Age) now has the money WotC could have had at this point. They're not doing much to earn my money for the future, either. Way to repeat the pre-release of 4e.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 5:01PM
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Sadly, 13th Age doesn't feed my needs right now that 4e D&D does...(13th Age is not the 4e's Pathfinder, is it's own diferent kind of beast and feel, wish is something i can respect, because i see Pathfinder as plagium)
13th is good very casual RPG system i am looking forward thought, and i am actually going to use 13th age to introduce some people into the world of tabletop RPGs
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 6:40PM
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Really? Not one? www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p... is on there. The dungeon tiles most certainly can be used for 4e games. Lords of Waterdeep is a fun boardgame, as is Dungeon! This is not a list of upcoming products, it's a list of what's already available.
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It does little to attempt to simulate anything either. (AD&D) is first and foremost a game for the fun and enjoyment of those who seek the use of imagination and creativity....
In all cases, however, the reader should understand that AD&D is designed to be an amusing and diverting pastime, something which an fill a few hours or consume endless days, as the participants desire, but in no case something to be taken too seriously.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 19, 2012 - 7:50PM
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Really? Not one?
www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p... is on there.
The dungeon tiles most certainly can be used for 4e games.
Lords of Waterdeep is a fun boardgame, as is Dungeon!
This is not a list of upcoming products, it's a list of what's already available.
Mezoberranzan is not a 4th edition product, hell it was sold as an "coming wave of edition neutral books"...4th edition players got more out of that month's dragon magazine article with the themes than the entire book itself...i don't even think that book is selling at all...when the internet don't even bother to pirate a D&D book, you know there is a very low interest on it...i don't even want to imagine how is selling (yes, i use research piracy to know the amount of piracy and sold product ratio of several things, i had to do it for a asignment for collage, but sometimes i continue to do stuff like that, sadly there isn't such thing as official numbers from books sold online and on retail/store like it happend on other kind of media)
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 1:51AM
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Sadly, 13th Age doesn't feed my needs right now that 4e D&D does...(13th Age is not the 4e's Pathfinder, is it's own diferent kind of beast and feel, wish is something i can respect, because i see Pathfinder as plagium)
13th is good very casual RPG system i am looking forward thought, and i am actually going to use 13th age to introduce some people into the world of tabletop RPGs
It isn't 4e's Pathfinder, and that's why I love it. It holds the spirit of 4e while being its own entity. If I wanted a 4e clone, I'd play 4e. 
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 2:11AM
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Sadly, 13th Age doesn't feed my needs right now that 4e D&D does...(13th Age is not the 4e's Pathfinder, is it's own diferent kind of beast and feel, wish is something i can respect, because i see Pathfinder as plagium)
13th is good very casual RPG system i am looking forward thought, and i am actually going to use 13th age to introduce some people into the world of tabletop RPGs
It isn't 4e's Pathfinder, and that's why I love it. It holds the spirit of 4e while being its own entity. If I wanted a 4e clone, I'd play 4e.
I know...i just...want more 4e crunch content...that isn't essentials...except hexblade, i love freaking hexblade...
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 3:00AM
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Really? Not one?
www.wizards.com/dnd/Product.aspx?x=dnd/p... is on there.
The dungeon tiles most certainly can be used for 4e games.
Lords of Waterdeep is a fun boardgame, as is Dungeon!
This is not a list of upcoming products, it's a list of what's already available.
The Menzo book is solidly edition neutral. As for the boardgames, they are a lot of fun (LoW is amazing) but are absolutely not 4e products. And while dungeon tiles can be used in 4e, they were originally released in 2006 (DT1) so they are as much a 3.5e product as they are a 4e product. I would say they are also edition neutral.
So I stand by what I said, there's not a single 4e product on this list.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 3:04AM
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I've given up and am assuming my collection is "complete" (I don't have the Mezzo book, but since it's not 4e specific I don't feel I need to).
Welcome to ZomboniLand - My D&D Blog http://zomboniland.blogspot.com/
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