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6 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 2:01PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 27, 2012
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Thanks to everyone for the help here. I think I'm stuck--my class is one of the things I can't change--can I take Archer Warlord on a hybrid character? If I could, I'd stick to STR/Will, and I wouldn't have to struggle with 3 or more primary stats.
I took improved defences feat over Archer Fighting Style (Hybrid) for the time being, so like the suggestion above, I can retrain it at paragon.
I can't change my class and go pure warlord, but at least there's a dedicated shaman in the group for enabling.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 9:50PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 16, 2009
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Yes, straight Warlord as a striker. His extra-damage mechanic is someone else's basic attack. Maybe more than one someone. And the Greatbow is a 1d12 weapon. Who cares if you can't do RBAs very well; without another enabler, you'll probably never do RBAs.
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ARCHER WARLORD
When you choose the Archer Warlord class feature, you lose proficiency with chainmail and light shields. You gain proficiency with military ranged weapons. In addition, when you make a ranged basic attack with a bow, you can use Strength instead of Dexterity for the attack roll and the damage roll.
You neglected to quote the bit of my post where I said that if you're the only enabler in the group, Archer Warlord is optional.
In other words, figure out how you're going to be making RBAs. And if the answer is that you won't be, then the option is not worth bothering with as compared to Greatbow proficiency (which takes a feat anyway since it's a superior weapon).
Granted, for a Taclord or Skirlord it doesn't cost much, and for a hybrid with a light-armor class it doesn't cost anything at all.
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Matyr: how did you get to do an RBA as a minor action?
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Thanks to everyone for the help here. I think I'm stuck--my class is one of the things I can't change--can I take Archer Warlord on a hybrid character? If I could, I'd stick to STR/Will, and I wouldn't have to struggle with 3 or more primary stats.
I took improved defences feat over Archer Fighting Style (Hybrid) for the time being, so like the suggestion above, I can retrain it at paragon.
I can't change my class and go pure warlord, but at least there's a dedicated shaman in the group for enabling.
The online Compendium doesn't list it as a valid option for hybrids, which should be authoritative but isn't quite. Can't get into the Character Builder (or actually log in to the tools site) at the moment because the site is sick, so I can't say whether the CB allows it. Ask your DM.
Since you have another enabler, it very well could be worth taking. And it will cost you nothing: you're a hybrid Ranger and thus don't have the armor proficiencies you're "sacrificing".
Str/Wis is a valid option for a Skirlord, but cuts you off from the riders on a lot of Warlord powers. Whereas not having high Dex cuts you off from pretty much all ranged-Ranger powers.
"The world does not work the way you have been taught it does. We are not real as such; we exist within The Story. Unfortunately for you, you have inherited a condition from your mother known as Primary Protagonist Syndrome, which means The Story is interested in you. It will find you, and if you are not ready for the narrative strands it will throw at you..." - from Footloose
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 8:35AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 18, 2006
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I think you are better off with high Dex, and low Str. The RBA is good without any Archer Warlord nonsense, and the Warlord has many powers without actually attacking.
However instead of Wis, I would go Cha, even if it is not optimal with a Ranger. Combat Commander is really important, only 4 levels away, and Initiative is all important for you.
If you wish to stay with high Wis, I suggest you take Spirit Talker and Mending Spirit, instead of Hybrid Talent and Weapon focus, it doubles the number of heals per encounter.
Or to have both: STR 8, CON 10, DEX 18, INT 10, WIS 13, CHA 13, and pump Dex and Cha every time.
For the 5th level daily try Scent of Victory if you have many melee allies, Destructive Surprise if not. They are not great, but ok.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 12:29PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 19, 2004
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Matyr: how did you get to do an RBA as a minor action?
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Other Stuff
Weapon of Speed. 1/encounter RBA as a minor action. The DM in that game allows us any +2 Weapons we want (I currently have a +2 Longbow of Speed, +2 Subtle Waraxe and +2 Vengeful Waraxe).
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