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Flag homicidal_squirrel November 16, 2012 5:38 PM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 4:19PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Nope, only reading a paper about a three-parameter magnitude phase function for asteroids in order to prep for my senior project work. Its important to know if asteroids are gonna hit the earth. Someone has to save lives without looking like a glorified hero.


I got this.



Flag Mad_Jack November 16, 2012 8:41 PM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 3:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Fortunately I always have a tatto which has been added within the previous three days of being asked to donate.



 Actually, depending on what state you live in, you don't need to wait after getting a tattoo - if you got your tat in states that have official licensing procedures and require tattoo shops to be licensed you don't need to wait...

 And...

 

 My blood type and one drop for each gallon donated.


Flag The_Silversword November 16, 2012 9:55 PM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?




Donating!? You know theres places that will pay you for that stuff?

Flag ADHadh November 17, 2012 4:07 AM PST
I just got out of the shower.
I think my roommate left for the weekend.
Flag homicidal_squirrel November 17, 2012 7:34 AM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 8:41PM, Mad_Jack wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 3:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Fortunately I always have a tatto which has been added within the previous three days of being asked to donate.



 Actually, depending on what state you live in, you don't need to wait after getting a tattoo - if you got your tat in states that have official licensing procedures and require tattoo shops to be licensed you don't need to wait...

 And...

 

 My blood type and one drop for each gallon donated.



Fortunately I live in Florida where you are required to wait.

Flag Mad_Jack November 17, 2012 11:45 PM PST

Nov 17, 2012 -- 7:34AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:



 Fortunately I live in Florida where you are required to wait.



Well, good for you, then, mr. homicidal_chicken...

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 17, 2012 11:58 PM PST

Nov 17, 2012 -- 11:45PM, Mad_Jack wrote:

Nov 17, 2012 -- 7:34AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:



 Fortunately I live in Florida where you are required to wait.



Well, good for you, then, mr. homicidal_chicken...


I refuse to give my blood for free and then have them charge some other person for my blood.

Flag lokiare November 18, 2012 12:49 AM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 4:19PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Nope, only reading a paper about a three-parameter magnitude phase function for asteroids in order to prep for my senior project work. Its important to know if asteroids are gonna hit the earth. Someone has to save lives without looking like a glorified hero.




How exactly are you going to do that? If a meteor is going to hit the earth we are just screwed...Smile

Flag lokiare November 18, 2012 12:50 AM PST

Nov 17, 2012 -- 11:58PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 17, 2012 -- 11:45PM, Mad_Jack wrote:

Nov 17, 2012 -- 7:34AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:



 Fortunately I live in Florida where you are required to wait.



Well, good for you, then, mr. homicidal_chicken...


I refuse to give my blood for free and then have them charge some other person for my blood.




Me too, but I don't make excuses. I tell them flat out...Smile

Flag The_Silversword November 18, 2012 12:52 AM PST
It's interesting that you can get money for your plasma, but not your whole blood, go figure. I do know a couple guys that will pay you top dollar for your kidney, hey, you only need one.
Flag lokiare November 18, 2012 1:03 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 12:52AM, The_Silversword wrote:

It's interesting that you can get money for your plasma, but not your whole blood, go figure. I do know a couple guys that will pay you top dollar for your kidney, hey, you only need one.




How much?

Flag The_Silversword November 18, 2012 1:10 AM PST
50 bucks per kindney. They dont have to be yours.
Flag lokiare November 18, 2012 1:19 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:10AM, The_Silversword wrote:

50 bucks per kindney. They dont have to be yours.




Sorry, I'm looking for a 3-4 digit number there...Smile

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 18, 2012 1:27 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:19AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:10AM, The_Silversword wrote:

50 bucks per kindney. They dont have to be yours.




Sorry, I'm looking for a 3-4 digit number there...Smile


How does 50.00 sound?

Flag lokiare November 18, 2012 6:27 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:27AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:19AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:10AM, The_Silversword wrote:

50 bucks per kindney. They dont have to be yours.




Sorry, I'm looking for a 3-4 digit number there...Smile


How does 50.00 sound?




Look, if I'm going to sell my body for money I want a decent price. $1000.00 would be the bare minimum...Smile

Or course with recent advancements in medicine the black market for organs will cease to exist...Smile

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 18, 2012 9:41 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 6:27AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:27AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:19AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:10AM, The_Silversword wrote:

50 bucks per kindney. They dont have to be yours.




Sorry, I'm looking for a 3-4 digit number there...Smile


How does 50.00 sound?




Look, if I'm going to sell my body for money I want a decent price. $1000.00 would be the bare minimum...Smile

Or course with recent advancements in medicine the black market for organs will cease to exist...Smile


That's a very cheap price. It explains a lot about you.

Flag DungeonHobbit November 18, 2012 11:25 AM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 9:55PM, The_Silversword wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?




Donating!? You know theres places that will pay you for that stuff?




Why do you think "donating" was in quotations? :p

Flag Ragnar_Lodbrok November 18, 2012 12:27 PM PST
Do they let you "donate" other people's blood?
Flag dirtyfrank November 18, 2012 1:23 PM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 12:49AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 4:19PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Nope, only reading a paper about a three-parameter magnitude phase function for asteroids in order to prep for my senior project work. Its important to know if asteroids are gonna hit the earth. Someone has to save lives without looking like a glorified hero.




How exactly are you going to do that? If a meteor is going to hit the earth we are just screwed...



Cuz if you can figure out an asteroid's trajectory for the next 1, 5, 10, 20 years then you can figure out if it has a chance to hit earth or not. If it is likely that it will or might hit earth we can starting working with our early warning to take measures to change its trajectory (fully within our current technological capabilities) so that it will miss us thus saving lives and junks.

Flag The_Silversword November 18, 2012 3:10 PM PST
I think its funny that offering money for kidneys is ok, but suggesting someone has Aquaman powers  is appreantly a nono. This CoC thing is so hard to figure out sometimes.
Flag KillerGM November 18, 2012 3:28 PM PST
Aquaman is srs bsns. For reals, bro.
Flag ADHadh November 18, 2012 5:05 PM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 3:28PM, KillerGM wrote:

Aquaman is srs bsns. For reals, bro.



Flag KillerGM November 18, 2012 5:22 PM PST
I that portrayal of him.
Flag ADHadh November 18, 2012 5:34 PM PST
Anyone claiming that Aquaman sucks should stop watching Robot Chicken and Big Bang Theory or other shows stuck with the 70s superheroes and treat themselves to "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure" instead.
Flag KillerGM November 18, 2012 8:14 PM PST
True dat. I also enjoyed his portrayal in the Justice League series. Total badass.
Flag Hipster_Cat November 18, 2012 10:06 PM PST
Vilain: Oh noes! It's Aquaman, we're doomed, he has the power to swim!
Flag ADHadh November 19, 2012 3:50 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 10:06PM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Vilain: Oh noes! It's Aquaman, we're doomed, he has the power to swim!


You sir are one of those people I've mentioned earlier. Go watch BatB now!

Flag lokiare November 19, 2012 3:56 AM PST

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:23PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 12:49AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 4:19PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Nope, only reading a paper about a three-parameter magnitude phase function for asteroids in order to prep for my senior project work. Its important to know if asteroids are gonna hit the earth. Someone has to save lives without looking like a glorified hero.




How exactly are you going to do that? If a meteor is going to hit the earth we are just screwed...



Cuz if you can figure out an asteroid's trajectory for the next 1, 5, 10, 20 years then you can figure out if it has a chance to hit earth or not. If it is likely that it will or might hit earth we can starting working with our early warning to take measures to change its trajectory (fully within our current technological capabilities) so that it will miss us thus saving lives and junks.




It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...Smile

Flag bone_naga November 19, 2012 5:49 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The Russians never detonated a full scale version of the Tsar Bomba (it was tested at half of its projected yield) because there was concern that it might affect the trajectory of the Earth (and also would have created a lot of fallout and not to mention destroying the aircraft that dropped it). I'm pretty sure another device (or we could build an even bigger one, it's not like we'd have the same constraints as we do for nuclear strikes) like that could do something to affect an asteroid/meteor.

Flag lokiare November 19, 2012 5:54 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:49AM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The Russians never detonated a full scale version of the Tsar Bomba (it was tested at half of its projected yield) because there was concern that it might affect the trajectory of the Earth (and also would have created a lot of fallout and not to mention destroying the aircraft that dropped it). I'm pretty sure another device (or we could build an even bigger one, it's not like we'd have the same constraints as we do for nuclear strikes) like that could do something to affect an asteroid/meteor.




We could not affect the trajectory of the earth with anything like that. We are talking about ants trying to move cars here. Even a bunch of nukes going off one after the other wouldn't be enough to change the trajectory of a large sized meteor unless it were 20+ years away. You have to remember these things flying through space are moving at super high speed, its not like in the movies where they are moving at 10mph to hit their targets...Smile

Flag Zombie_Babies November 19, 2012 7:10 AM PST
Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 19, 2012 7:31 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 



I don't know. They both seem to be equally qualified.

Flag Zombie_Babies November 19, 2012 7:43 AM PST
Of course, that's our dilemma.  I just don't know where to turn.  If only Alex Jones would pop into the discussion and tell me what to maybe think.
Flag dirtyfrank November 19, 2012 9:38 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 1:23PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 12:49AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 4:19PM, dirtyfrank wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Nope, only reading a paper about a three-parameter magnitude phase function for asteroids in order to prep for my senior project work. Its important to know if asteroids are gonna hit the earth. Someone has to save lives without looking like a glorified hero.




How exactly are you going to do that? If a meteor is going to hit the earth we are just screwed...



Cuz if you can figure out an asteroid's trajectory for the next 1, 5, 10, 20 years then you can figure out if it has a chance to hit earth or not. If it is likely that it will or might hit earth we can starting working with our early warning to take measures to change its trajectory (fully within our current technological capabilities) so that it will miss us thus saving lives and junks.




It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The only money that would need to be tossed at it would be putting a probe/satellite into space. With enough warning time we can get it to the asteroid in question and just have it lead or tail behind the asteroid and slowly speed or slow it down with gravity. With a continual gravitational tug for a year or more even an extinction sized asteroid can be caused to miss earth. Which is why this program thing im participating in is to better track Near Earth Objects we already know about. Basically Asteroids that do cross the path of earth's orbit. The more warning time we have the more time we have to do something about it. This is even more so important since the US basically no longer has a space program and would have to depend on other nations (china and russia) in order to save the earth (will take longer to organize to get junk in space).

Flag Hipster_Cat November 19, 2012 10:24 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 



This is America! I should be free to make the choices I want!

Flag Zombie_Babies November 19, 2012 10:36 AM PST
And you are.  Now, who do you choose?
Flag Hipster_Cat November 19, 2012 10:38 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 10:36AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

And you are.  Now, who do you choose?



No, your forcing us to follow the "intellectual elite's" point of view by ridiculing others!

You work for the man, don't you? 

Flag Zombie_Babies November 19, 2012 10:39 AM PST
No ... but you do.  Hmm ... this is getting interesting.

EDIT: And - for the record - I didn't ridicule anyone.  I simply presented things as they are.  Most would agree that Loki presents himself as a conspiracy theorist, he himself said he won't pay cash for coffee and that he gets a lot of his info from places like Infowars - Alex Jones' website.  That's not ridicule, it's da truf!
Flag Hipster_Cat November 19, 2012 10:53 AM PST
Actually my "Man" had to reseign. To many corruption allegations. I am manless now.

Yes, to escape government scrutiny Loki pays with credit cards and wants to give DNA for identification instead of social security number when he goes in a FEMA detentions centers. Nothing ridiculus here.
Flag Zombie_Babies November 19, 2012 11:02 AM PST
The truth can be ridiculous, however, I am not using the truth as ridicule.  Perception, on the other hand, is not something I can guarantee. 
Flag trappedslider November 19, 2012 11:28 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 10:53AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Actually my "Man" had to reseign. To many corruption allegations. I am manless now.




that must make it hard for you to be iwth the ladies

Flag Hipster_Cat November 19, 2012 11:41 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 11:28AM, trappedslider wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 10:53AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Actually my "Man" had to reseign. To many corruption allegations. I am manless now.




that must make it hard for you to be iwth the ladies



At least I'm not you.

Flag bone_naga November 19, 2012 4:00 PM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:54AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:49AM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The Russians never detonated a full scale version of the Tsar Bomba (it was tested at half of its projected yield) because there was concern that it might affect the trajectory of the Earth (and also would have created a lot of fallout and not to mention destroying the aircraft that dropped it). I'm pretty sure another device (or we could build an even bigger one, it's not like we'd have the same constraints as we do for nuclear strikes) like that could do something to affect an asteroid/meteor.




We could not affect the trajectory of the earth with anything like that. We are talking about ants trying to move cars here. Even a bunch of nukes going off one after the other wouldn't be enough to change the trajectory of a large sized meteor unless it were 20+ years away. You have to remember these things flying through space are moving at super high speed, its not like in the movies where they are moving at 10mph to hit their targets...



I can't speak to whether or not it could, but this came from a place filled with people with 100 lbs brains that do nothing but study nukes all day. So take it as you will.

See the funny thing with trajectory is that you don't need to do a lot immediately in order to create a significant effect. Think about shooting a gun. If you shift the barrel one inch, that turns into several inches, then a foot, and even further depending on how far it travels. So if you shift that object even slightly, if it is done far enough out, you can cause it to miss a planet. If you can get it inside the object (doesn't have to be a drilling operation to do that), you can affect it even more.

As for speed, so what? The principle is the same either way. It's not like we can't hit a fast-moving target.

Flag lokiare November 20, 2012 4:14 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 




And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...Smile

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...Smile

Flag lokiare November 20, 2012 4:18 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 10:39AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

No ... but you do.  Hmm ... this is getting interesting.

EDIT: And - for the record - I didn't ridicule anyone.  I simply presented things as they are.  Most would agree that Loki presents himself as a conspiracy theorist, he himself said he won't pay cash for coffee and that he gets a lot of his info from places like Infowars - Alex Jones' website.  That's not ridicule, it's da truf!




Yeah, I never said I won't pay cash for coffee. I said coffee shops are told to report you to home land security if you pay with cash. See if you can't even get things right, why do you continue to stereotype me and insult me?

It doesn't matter what I present myself as, you should be refuting facts with facts. Its not a difficult concept to grasp. You know honest discussion.

I'm still waiting for you to refute anything Alex Jones has said. Most of the time you misquote him and then refute your misquote. I think they have a name for that, what is it? Straw manning...Smile

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 4:18 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:14AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 




And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...



Loki, you're just mad cuz it's true.
Personally, I think you're crazier than hell.

Flag lokiare November 20, 2012 4:27 AM PST

Nov 19, 2012 -- 4:00PM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:54AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:49AM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The Russians never detonated a full scale version of the Tsar Bomba (it was tested at half of its projected yield) because there was concern that it might affect the trajectory of the Earth (and also would have created a lot of fallout and not to mention destroying the aircraft that dropped it). I'm pretty sure another device (or we could build an even bigger one, it's not like we'd have the same constraints as we do for nuclear strikes) like that could do something to affect an asteroid/meteor.




We could not affect the trajectory of the earth with anything like that. We are talking about ants trying to move cars here. Even a bunch of nukes going off one after the other wouldn't be enough to change the trajectory of a large sized meteor unless it were 20+ years away. You have to remember these things flying through space are moving at super high speed, its not like in the movies where they are moving at 10mph to hit their targets...



I can't speak to whether or not it could, but this came from a place filled with people with 100 lbs brains that do nothing but study nukes all day. So take it as you will.

See the funny thing with trajectory is that you don't need to do a lot immediately in order to create a significant effect. Think about shooting a gun. If you shift the barrel one inch, that turns into several inches, then a foot, and even further depending on how far it travels. So if you shift that object even slightly, if it is done far enough out, you can cause it to miss a planet. If you can get it inside the object (doesn't have to be a drilling operation to do that), you can affect it even more.

As for speed, so what? The principle is the same either way. It's not like we can't hit a fast-moving target.




You forgot inertia. If the thing has a lot of mass and is moving very fast, then it is going to be exponentially harder to change its path. Then you have to worry about hitting the object in a specific spot in order to change its direction. Think of a pool table and hitting the cue ball off center as its moving. Except magnify that by billions and trillions.

Flag lokiare November 20, 2012 4:30 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:18AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:14AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 




And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...



Loki, you're just mad cuz it's true.
Personally, I think you're crazier than hell.




You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation, or you know refuting anything I say with actual facts, something I haven't seen anyone do but Bone_Naga and only in one instance. But keep the character assassination up, it discredits your arguments to the point where I don't have to say a word.

I mean everyone knows people with mustaches are liars so you couldn't be right anyway right? See how that works. Character assassination is dishonest and unproductive in a discussion. Ridicule is worse...Smile

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 5:28 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:30AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:18AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:14AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 




And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...



Loki, you're just mad cuz it's true.
Personally, I think you're crazier than hell.




You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation, or you know refuting anything I say with actual facts, something I haven't seen anyone do but Bone_Naga and only in one instance. But keep the character assassination up, it discredits your arguments to the point where I don't have to say a word.

I mean everyone knows people with mustaches are liars so you couldn't be right anyway right? See how that works. Character assassination is dishonest and unproductive in a discussion. Ridicule is worse...



Perhaps.
But ridicule is fun ... especially when it is deserved... as in the case with you.

And I haven't seen anything from you I would consider "facts".

Also, broads love my 70's porn 'stache. It tickles.

Flag Zombie_Babies November 20, 2012 7:06 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:14AM, lokiare wrote:

And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...Smile

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...Smile




Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:18AM, lokiare wrote:

Yeah, I never said I won't pay cash for coffee. I said coffee shops are told to report you to home land security if you pay with cash. See if you can't even get things right, why do you continue to stereotype me and insult me?

It doesn't matter what I present myself as, you should be refuting facts with facts. Its not a difficult concept to grasp. You know honest discussion.

I'm still waiting for you to refute anything Alex Jones has said. Most of the time you misquote him and then refute your misquote. I think they have a name for that, what is it? Straw manning...Smile






It's not character assassination, dood.  Here, lemme make what I said simpler - I'll take out all the flavory goodness that you consider 'character assassination', too:

dirtyfrank - guy studying physics with a focus on this specific topic.
Lokiare - guy that knows a lot, lot, lot less about physics than dirtyfrank - especially on this specific topic

Now what character assassination is there?  That's the root of my statement.  The rest was simply color.  Are you suggesting that you don't know less than df?  Are you suggesting that you're more an authority on the subject than he is?  If not, well, I think I've made my point.  After all, you don't go to a Dunkin Donut's counter worker when you need to find out whether or not you have cancer. 

EDIT: Maybe I should just put a microphone in front of myself.  I mean, to you that'd make me an expert. 

Flag dirtyfrank November 20, 2012 7:57 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:14AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:10AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Hmm, it appears we have us a knowledge battle.  On one side, we have the guy that's about to become an actual physicist - he studies space an' junk.  He, like, knows a lot about it cuz it's what he's decided to devote an inordinant amount of his life to learning.  On the other side, we have a conspiracy theorist who's afraid to pay cash for coffee and who gets most of his info not from a university (the Man), but from Alex Jones and Art Bell.  Who, oh who should we trust? 




And you lost your point before you even got to make it. Character assassination only discredits your argument...

Stereo Typing someone as a conspiracy theorist is the worst excuse you can come up with to refute a position.

I mean if every time you posted I laughed your comments off because you came from the state you came from or whatever it would look petty and ignorant. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist is exactly the same...


Dont worry you're supposed to laugh at his comments anyways cuz like he's from Ohio. Not cuz that means he's funny or anything but cuz like he shouldn't be taken seriously cuz he's not from an important state and whatnot. Its cute that he thinks his opinion or worth while.



Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:27AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 4:00PM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:54AM, lokiare wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 5:49AM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 19, 2012 -- 3:56AM, lokiare wrote:

It depends on the size of the meteor and how much money we have to throw at it. Any meteor large enough to make it through the atmosphere and create a big enough impact to destroy a city, we have no chance against...



The Russians never detonated a full scale version of the Tsar Bomba (it was tested at half of its projected yield) because there was concern that it might affect the trajectory of the Earth (and also would have created a lot of fallout and not to mention destroying the aircraft that dropped it). I'm pretty sure another device (or we could build an even bigger one, it's not like we'd have the same constraints as we do for nuclear strikes) like that could do something to affect an asteroid/meteor.




We could not affect the trajectory of the earth with anything like that. We are talking about ants trying to move cars here. Even a bunch of nukes going off one after the other wouldn't be enough to change the trajectory of a large sized meteor unless it were 20+ years away. You have to remember these things flying through space are moving at super high speed, its not like in the movies where they are moving at 10mph to hit their targets...



I can't speak to whether or not it could, but this came from a place filled with people with 100 lbs brains that do nothing but study nukes all day. So take it as you will.

See the funny thing with trajectory is that you don't need to do a lot immediately in order to create a significant effect. Think about shooting a gun. If you shift the barrel one inch, that turns into several inches, then a foot, and even further depending on how far it travels. So if you shift that object even slightly, if it is done far enough out, you can cause it to miss a planet. If you can get it inside the object (doesn't have to be a drilling operation to do that), you can affect it even more.

As for speed, so what? The principle is the same either way. It's not like we can't hit a fast-moving target.




You forgot inertia. If the thing has a lot of mass and is moving very fast, then it is going to be exponentially harder to change its path. Then you have to worry about hitting the object in a specific spot in order to change its direction. Think of a pool table and hitting the cue ball off center as its moving. Except magnify that by billions and trillions.



bonenaga has the right idea but just not properly constructed. A single abrupt event would not be necessary for slowing down an asteroid (would need something either massive or fast cuz of inertia), however if you have a constant force, even if small, for some extended period of time then you can do wonders.

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 10:08 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 7:57AM, dirtyfrank wrote:

bonenaga has the right idea but just not properly constructed. A single abrupt event would not be necessary for slowing down an asteroid (would need something either massive or fast cuz of inertia), however if you have a constant force, even if small, for some extended period of time then you can do wonders.


Or paintballs.

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 10:20 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:18AM, lokiare wrote:

Yeah, I never said I won't pay cash for coffee. I said coffee shops are told to report you to home land security if you pay with cash. See if you can't even get things right, why do you continue to stereotype me and insult me?


Yeah, that doesn't make you sound any less crazy. But in any case, I've been wanting to ask you about this. Let's say that I wake up one morning hating myself and decide to fly over to South Carolina. Then, I decide to go to one of the local coffee shops there and get a coffee and I pay for it with cash. How are the employees of the coffee shop going to be able to report me to Home Land Security? Do they have a number they can call and say "Some guy just came in and paid for coffee with cash." How would they identify me? Wouldn't it be easier if I had given them something which they could track? You know, like a credit or debit card? Has any coffee shop employee ever come forward to give out the number they are told to call to report cash payers?

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 10:22 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:30AM, lokiare wrote:

You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation...


Well, you're in luck. I can administer one of those to you.

Flag Zombie_Babies November 20, 2012 11:37 AM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 10:20AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Yeah, that doesn't make you sound any less crazy. But in any case, I've been wanting to ask you about this. Let's say that I wake up one morning hating myself and decide to fly over to South Carolina. Then, I decide to go to one of the local coffee shops there and get a coffee and I pay for it with cash. How are the employees of the coffee shop going to be able to report me to Home Land Security? Do they have a number they can call and say "Some guy just came in and paid for coffee with cash." How would they identify me? Wouldn't it be easier if I had given them something which they could track? You know, like a credit or debit card? Has any coffee shop employee ever come forward to give out the number they are told to call to report cash payers?




The questions ... they ... buuuuuuuuurrrrnnnnnn!!!! 

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 12:04 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 10:22AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:30AM, lokiare wrote:

You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation...


Well, you're in luck. I can administer one of those to you.



Oh! Do one for me!
I want to know how up I am.

Flag KillerGM November 20, 2012 12:09 PM PST
More than some, not as much as others.
Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 12:25 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:09PM, KillerGM wrote:

More than some, not as much as others.



I would prefer "More than most, not as much as some."

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 12:31 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:04PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 10:22AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:30AM, lokiare wrote:

You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation...


Well, you're in luck. I can administer one of those to you.



Oh! Do one for me!
I want to know how up I am.


You drink Pabts. How much more up can you be?

Flag Klirshon November 20, 2012 12:43 PM PST
Is drinking Pabts worse than categorising it as "good beer"?
Flag KillerGM November 20, 2012 12:47 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:25PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:09PM, KillerGM wrote:

More than some, not as much as others.



I would prefer "More than most, not as much as some."


Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 1:18 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:31PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:04PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 10:22AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:30AM, lokiare wrote:

You can think anything you want, but it doesn't matter until you back it up with facts. Like a psychological evaluation...


Well, you're in luck. I can administer one of those to you.



Oh! Do one for me!
I want to know how up I am.


You drink Pabts. How much more up can you be?



Fair enough.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 1:18 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:47PM, KillerGM wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:25PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:09PM, KillerGM wrote:

More than some, not as much as others.



I would prefer "More than most, not as much as some."




Fair enough.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 1:19 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:43PM, Klirshon wrote:

Is drinking Pabts worse than categorising it as "good beer"?



But it is good beer!

Flag Klirshon November 20, 2012 1:23 PM PST
I estimate your preference for PBR will affect your evaluation.
Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 1:50 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:43PM, Klirshon wrote:

Is drinking Pabts worse than categorising it as "good beer"?


RH does both.

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 1:52 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 1:19PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 12:43PM, Klirshon wrote:

Is drinking Pabts worse than categorising it as "good beer"?



But it is good beer!


See what I mean? This is just up beyond the point that any psychoogical test is capable of handling.

Flag Zombie_Babies November 20, 2012 1:57 PM PST
The Nazis had a solution for problem folks like that.
Flag Hipster_Cat November 20, 2012 2:06 PM PST
It's good beer... To get plastered cheaply. 
Flag Zombie_Babies November 20, 2012 2:07 PM PST
Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.
Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 2:09 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 1:57PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

The Nazis had a solution for problem folks like that.


Maybe RH will be lucky and fall into one of the wells he is inspecting with a lit cig. It's similar, right?

Flag Zombie_Babies November 20, 2012 2:10 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:09PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Maybe RH will be lucky and fall into one of the wells he is inspecting with a lit cig. It's similar, right?




Similar to being sent to the eastern front?  Umm ... sure.

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 2:16 PM PST
Excellent.
Flag bone_naga November 20, 2012 7:36 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:27AM, lokiare wrote:

You forgot inertia. If the thing has a lot of mass and is moving very fast, then it is going to be exponentially harder to change its path. Then you have to worry about hitting the object in a specific spot in order to change its direction. Think of a pool table and hitting the cue ball off center as its moving. Except magnify that by billions and trillions.



I didn't forget about anything. A wikipedia entry describing inertia doesn't by any means make this impossible. We are talking about a very slight shift, not bringing something to a dead halt.

As for hitting a fast moving object, if we can have two fast moving missiles moving in opposite directions, both moving at extremely fast speeds, both must smaller than said asteroid, and we are able to make one hit the other, I think we can smash into something that freaking big.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 7:57 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:09PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 1:57PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

The Nazis had a solution for problem folks like that.


Maybe RH will be lucky and fall into one of the wells he is inspecting with a lit cig. It's similar, right?



HEY!


EDIT: Monitoring wells are, at most, 6 inches in diameter.
I'm thin, but not that thin brosef.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 8:00 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.

Flag bone_naga November 20, 2012 8:05 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:00PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.



A disturbing number of guys in basic or overseas try that crap. Mouthwash, rubbing alcohol, and hand sanitizer, all of which are retarded. Like dude, just have them mail you some booze inside a water bottle and you're good.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 8:07 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:05PM, bone_naga wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:00PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.



A disturbing number of guys in basic or overseas try that crap. Mouthwash, rubbing alcohol, and hand sanitizer, all of which are retarded. Like dude, just have them mail you some booze inside a water bottle and you're good.



I know, right?

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 8:13 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:00PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.


I knew a guy that drank Pabts. You've never been right in the head.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 20, 2012 8:14 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:13PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:00PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.


I knew a guy that drank Pabts. You've never been right in the head.




Flag homicidal_squirrel November 20, 2012 8:17 PM PST
Flag dirtyfrank November 20, 2012 8:37 PM PST

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:13PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 8:00PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:07PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

Rubbing alcohol would both taste better and be more cost effective.



I knew a guy in the Army what drank rubbing alcohol one night.
He puked blood for a while the next morning and wasn't right for days.
It was hilarious.


I knew a guy that drank Pabts. You've never been right in the head.



Flag Waka_Waka_Waka November 21, 2012 6:16 AM PST
Pabst is beer?  When did that happen?
Flag homicidal_squirrel November 21, 2012 7:01 AM PST

Nov 21, 2012 -- 6:16AM, Waka_Waka_Waka wrote:

Pabst is beer?  When did that happen?


No, it isn't. Which is why I didn't call it beer.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 21, 2012 7:03 AM PST

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:01AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 21, 2012 -- 6:16AM, Waka_Waka_Waka wrote:

Pabst is beer?  When did that happen?


No, it isn't. Which is why I didn't call it beer.





It says it is beer right on the can!
So, beer!

Do I make fun of you guys for drinking whatever swill you imbibe?

Flag homicidal_squirrel November 21, 2012 7:08 AM PST

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:03AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:



It says it is beer right on the can!
So, beer!


Pop-Tarts say fruit filling on the box, but that doesn't mean it actually has fruit in it.

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:03AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Do I make fun of you guys for drinking whatever swill you imbibe?


Of course you dont. That's because you can't. We have taste.

Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 21, 2012 7:23 AM PST

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:08AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:03AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:



It says it is beer right on the can!
So, beer!


Pop-Tarts say fruit filling on the box, but that doesn't mean it actually has fruit in it.

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:03AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Do I make fun of you guys for drinking whatever swill you imbibe?


Of course you dont. That's because you can't. We have taste.




Fair enough.

Flag Waka_Waka_Waka November 21, 2012 9:40 AM PST

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:03AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:



It says it is beer right on the can!
So, beer!

Do I make fun of you guys for drinking whatever swill you imbibe?




We don't drink swill, we drink beer and fine liquors.   

Nov 21, 2012 -- 7:08AM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Of course you dont. That's because you can't. We have taste.




Yar-tastic.

Flag DungeonHobbit November 30, 2012 11:13 AM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?




And the result of my plasma donation! youtu.be/PIN0IWNlC_o

Flag Hipster_Cat November 30, 2012 11:24 AM PST
Not bad, but more cleavage would help people with ADD stay tune.
Flag jetshield November 30, 2012 1:19 PM PST
I almost got through the first 30 seconds. 
Flag Zombie_Babies November 30, 2012 2:07 PM PST
I made it through like 15 before my 'why do I care?  oh wait, I don't' safety measure kicked in. 
Flag ADHadh November 30, 2012 3:40 PM PST
Youtube goofed again and I couldn't watch it
BTW, anyone else having problems with YT in Firefox?
Flag Robin_Hoodlum November 30, 2012 4:38 PM PST

Nov 30, 2012 -- 3:40PM, ADHadh wrote:

Youtube goofed again and I couldn't watch it
BTW, anyone else having problems with YT in Firefox?



Yes.
Sometimes videos work, sometimes they don't.

Flag DungeonHobbit November 30, 2012 4:42 PM PST

Nov 30, 2012 -- 3:40PM, ADHadh wrote:

BTW, anyone else having problems with YT in Firefox?




Yes. I've been having FireFox problems in general. It has been lagging horribly on my ASUS, but it's been perfectly fine on my Dell. I'm a pretty devout FireFox user, but I've had to use Chrome on my ASUS because even Internet Explore is running better than FireFox on it. Never thought I'd be saying that.

Flag EscherEnigma November 30, 2012 7:17 PM PST

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Last time I went to donate I was told my homo-goblins were too high1.  When I got home I accused the bastards of holding out on me.
________
1Yes, I know it's actually spelled hemoglobins.  It's funnier this way. 

Flag The_Silversword November 30, 2012 10:55 PM PST

Nov 30, 2012 -- 7:17PM, EscherEnigma wrote:

Nov 16, 2012 -- 11:13AM, DungeonHobbit wrote:

I am "donating" plasma. Anyone up to anything more interesting?



Last time I went to donate I was told my homo-goblins were too high1.  When I got home I accused the bastards of holding out on me.
________
1Yes, I know it's actually spelled hemoglobins.  It's funnier this way. 




Ahhhh, I was thinking too myself, how could homo-goblins ever be too high? I mean high sure, but too high? 

Anyways, youve given me a great adventure idea for saturday nights game, thanx man! 

Flag dirtyfrank November 30, 2012 11:02 PM PST

Nov 30, 2012 -- 3:40PM, ADHadh wrote:

Youtube goofed again and I couldn't watch it
BTW, anyone else having problems with YT in Firefox?



no. Although every once in a while if i have anything running that uses adobe flash my ff will crash. the crashing doesn't bother me overall cuz it just means i got to refresh pages except for when its in the process of crashing the whole browser freezes for like 20 seconds and so i cant do squat cuz adobe flash is crashin on one tab in one window.

ok funny story. adobe flash crashed just now while i was playing the plasma video in the background while typing this. But i'm not sure if it was the video or one of the few streams i had playing in the background. Not sure what causes teh crashes. I've read that not having the newest versions of ff and adobe flash is what causes the problem but personally it seems that if you dont have the newest versions of these things you are much much less likely to ever experience these crashes ever.

Flag ADHadh December 1, 2012 3:48 AM PST
My theory is that after being declared a dying technology, Flash decided it won't go down peacefully.
Flag KillerGM December 1, 2012 10:14 AM PST

Dec 1, 2012 -- 3:48AM, ADHadh wrote:

My theory is that after being declared a dying technology, Flash decided it won't go down peacefully.



+1

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