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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 1:27PM
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A pickpocket rogue could make a check against a DC equal to the target's Constition score + 5 to steal its brain, heart or any small body part.
The enemy would be unable to function normally.
He could also make a pickpocket check against a DC equal to the target's Intelligence score + 5 to steal its brain and steal its free will, forcing the target to follow any order.
A rogue could use open lock on the enemy's chest, making him lose his entrails.
A rogue couls also use disarm trap on an enemy to disable all his sphincters.
The possibilities are endless.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 1:43PM
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Fighters not using their brains vs. rogues using their brain in a fight is a preconception.
An idiotic one.. and the fighter being a dunce is rather game reinforced nerdastic goo.
I agree with everything you said except for the word "goo."
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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 2:05PM
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You guys have some weird preconceptions of rogues.
Rogues lie, cheat, and steal, but not in the middle of a fight (with some exceptions). They can use tricks in a fight, but they don't rely on them.
The difference between the Rogue and the Fighter is that a Fighter uses martial prowess to defeat his enemies, but a Rogue uses his brain. The Rogue uses stealth, poisons, and traps because he can and not because he has to. A Fighter is better than a Rogue in a direct fight, but the Rogue is not above exploiting weaknesses.
Wrong! The Rogue doesn't use his Brain, he uses his Dexterity! 
Seriously though, I wish Rogues had better incentive to be clever. Because all rogues are gymnasts. And all gymnasts can pick locks. And all lock pickers can assassinate....wait, none of that makes sense.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 2:07PM
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Fighters not using their brains vs. rogues using their brain in a fight is a preconception.
An idiotic one.. and the fighter being a dunce is rather game reinforced nerdastic goo.
I agree with everything you said except for the word "goo."
man I thought it perfectly evocative of childhood/teenage messes
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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 2:53PM
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Fighters not using their brains vs. rogues using their brain in a fight is a preconception.
An idiotic one.. and the fighter being a dunce is rather game reinforced nerdastic goo.
I agree with everything you said except for the word "goo."
man I thought it perfectly evocative of childhood/teenage messes
I would have went with a more evocative teenage/adult description of said mess.
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