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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 8:50PM
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Is that... common? I've played both, and kinda freaking hate 3e. I like some aspects, sure, and have brought in a few from that, and ADND. Imean YES, its kinda unrealistic. If I stab you, 99% chance I'm peicing your armour. I don't care what it is. Hide is not going to stop my spear. Ever. No not neven if you roll. Still on it? Fine, spear's on fire and now so are you. But it's a game, so... it lets hilarity happen sometimes. Seriously, people complain about that, instead of finding it absolutely hilarious?
No matter. So no, I love 4e. Funny?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 9:15PM
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Is that... common?
Not so much anymore, but they have been. The number of people who flip their crap and scream 'you can't knock a snake prone' or 'a halfling with a dagger can't push a gigantic red dragon or prone it' used to be all over the damn place.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 9:17PM
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(Kicks a snake over.) Prone.
(Midget pushes building and knocks it on its ass.) Funny.
That said, yeah I can see that. I heard the uproar from people. Is 4e perfect? Naw. Was 3e? HELL NO! Once again, i stab you with a flaming spear, and you're wearing hide. Your AC wins? No it doesnt. Not in reality. You're both impaled and screaming while you burn, me holding you up and chuckling. (This might actually be how someone kills an opponent, but only because they're already dead and it adds atmosphere. Or is cool.)
I mean here's what happeed to the first werewolf. First, it was not a book wolf, it was a "curse" one, so not sentient. Made up? Yep. Do I care? Anyway, the pxie blinded it while we were in the cemetary. What would it normally do? Try to run as best it can. Sadly for it, it couldn't see the tombstone, so ran full sprint into it. Now, according to the rules nothing should happen. Most of the time you follow the rules to the letter so battles don't just fall apart. Other times... well it was round 3.
And besides, were people against houserules? Don't the books outright tell you to USE houserules? If they wanted to toss in size limitations for affecting stuff like that, well, again, houserules. There are freaking rules for houserules!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 10:51PM
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I'm not trying to be discouraging, but I will be blunt.
Threads usually have a goal, either explicitly expressed or heavily implied. They are usually started to discuss topics, express feelings, to inform, to ask for help, or to entertain. And the goal of the thread helps to frame the discussion and give the thread purpose and direction.
A little prompting goes a long way towards stir a discussion thread into a productive direction. You started this thread with a very short, random anecdote and a goal to vague to be identified. So it should be no surprise that your first response was request for additional prompting. Even saying something to the effect of "I'd like to share this funny thing that happened in our last game," would had garnered you a more favorable initial response.
So, yeah. Interesting story.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 10:55PM
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I figured I wouldn't have to. That people would pick up on it. I mean, to me it's obvious that thw ehole thing was meant as just something funny, to share some joy. And no, he wasn't prompting for more info, just my opinion, really, on if 4e sucks or not, as he said.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 11:20PM
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Push powers are fun.
Dwarf shield con-fighter.
Got the nice feat & item set up. lvl23 Encounter power Colossal Strike.
Fought on a landing on a massive mountain trail. Hit, 4d10+27 & push 8... Oh, it falls 300 squares.
Action point and Mountain Breaking Blow. 3d10+27, push 4, and... oh, it falls 300 squares. Well, that's my 2 or the 6 monsters.
Sadly, yes, there are a number of people here who don't appreciate subtly.
There are a number of people who are hostile.
There are a number of people who troll.
And there are even some who fit all 3.
Not everyone is an equine's rump, but there seem to be a lot.
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Bow down, my subjects, for I am your master! Yesss.....
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For some reason, none of my friends were surprised by this...
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7 months ago ::
Nov 12, 2012 - 4:13AM
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I figured I wouldn't have to. That people would pick up on it.
The written word is a silent medium. Some subtleties in communication and intent can get lost with the lack of context, non-verbal gestures, inflection and so on. And that's on top of the fallible nature of human communication and all that it entails. So it helps to make your intent a bit more explicit than you would otherwise. While your implied intent may be obvious to you, your readers have no choice but to infer from the information you give.
And no, he wasn't prompting for more info, just my opinion
Salla's first post did.
And your point is ... ?
Which, frankly, what I was wondering before I even read the rest of this thread. Short stories like your have been used as the framing device for all sorts of different thread goals. So I too was wondering where you were going with it.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 12, 2012 - 5:22AM
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The reaction to this thread makes me sad. Nick, not everybody will be as negative as those who managed to respond first on this thread. I enjoyed your story. Please don't let the reaction you received discourage you.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 12, 2012 - 6:40AM
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Nick,
Welcome by the way. I too enjoyed the game-play that you described. And I took it for what it was, a cool thing that happened in a Dungeons and Dragons game that someone thought was cool enough to report to other fellow D & D players.
I used to come on here with similar anecdotes, but not really anymore. There are a lot of great people on here, but there are a prolific few who make it a point of raining on parades. I'm not neccessarily saying that that is what happened here (get your back down Salla), but folks have become so defensive and territorial on here, it has sucked a lot of the fun out of the place.
You have to look at it like this: Go ahead and post what you're gonna post. There will be those regulars who will poke and provoke at WHATEVER you say. But in there somewhere, you'll get a response or two from a kindred mind. Just ignore the chaff; harvest the wheat.
Regarding houseruling... God forbid that you take the books advice and do that. Ask the guy who recently came on here with a cool beholder story.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 12, 2012 - 9:20AM
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@Fireclave, Salla's point was asking if I ahted 4e, not for more info on the story itself.
@Wrecan, actually Salla wasn't being mean. I mean he WAS, but not in the way I thought at first. He assumed I was saying it's dumb that a tiny can push a large. He switched it up.
@Growlin, again, Salla's fine, dude! He was worried was just saying 4e sucked becasue it allowed this. He said it was funny after I clairified that. Really the only one ding any raining by repreatedly bringing it up is Fireclave....
And beholder story? OO! Link me?
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