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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2012 - 7:31PM
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Hey guys, in a recent thread I got some advice on my build and I ended up with going with the Dread Necro/Binder/Anima Mage suggestion. I'm loving the potential in this. I've made up a 1-20 character progession list and was just wondering if any of you far more advanced players could have a look and make any recommendations for tweaking the build for more benefit. Perhaps changing the order in which I get certain feats, or changing the feats altogether. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers. P.S. Access to any official 3.5e book  Terlence Undermill Strongheart Halfling (At level 1)STR 8 (-1) DEX 14 (+2) CON 12 (+1) INT 14 (+2) WIS 10 CHA 17 (+3) Terlence, or Terly, comes from a small settlement called Roundmound, which is found in the lands of Luiren. Consisting of just 4 families, Roundmound is a tight-knit community regardless of the frequent comings and goings of its adventurous residents. Terly’s mother was still young when she came down with an unknown disease and starting to slowly die. As she slowly and painfully perished from the unknown ailment Terly was her sole carer. Though the disease was tragic and unforgiving, Terly couldn’t help but to see a certain beauty in the irrefutable power of death. He grew to have a great respect and a great curiosity towards death, seeing it as not evil or ugly, but as poetic and beautiful... And the ultimate challenge for those who are willing to face it! Since his mother’s passing Terly has begun traveling to expand his knowledge and his strength. His goal is to harness the infinite power of death and use this power to, when the time comes, challenge death itself! 1 - Dread Necro – Charnel touch, rebuke undead Tomb-tainted Soul, Corpse Crafter2 - Dread Necro – Lich body DR 2 3 - Dread Necro – Negative energy burst 1/ day Destruction Retribution4 - Dread Necro – Advanced Learning (Kelgore’s Grave Mist), Mental Bastion +2 +1 Cha5 - Dread Necro – Fear Aura 6 - Dread Necro – Scabrous touch 1/ day Spell Focus: Necromancy7 - Dread Necro – Lich body DR 4, Summon Familiar (Ghostly Visage) 8 - Dread Necro – Advanced Learning (Shivering Touch), Negative energy burst 2/ day, Undead mastery +1 Cha9 - Binder – Soul binding (1 vestige) Improved Binding10 – Binder – Pact Augmentation (1 ability), Suppress sign 11 – Binder - 12 - Binder – Bonus feat: Ignore Special Requirements Metamagic: Extend Spell+1 Cha13 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +1, +1 Spellcasting level 14 - Anima Mage – Exploit vestige, Soulbinding +2, +1 Spellcasting level 15 - Anima Mage – Vestigial awareness, Soulbinding +3, +1 Spellcasting level Improved Spell Focus: Necromancy16 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +4, +1 Spellcasting level +1 Cha17 - Anima Mage – Vestige metamagic 1/ day, Soulbinding +5, +1 Spellcasting level 18 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +6, +1 Spellcasting level Metamagic Persist Spell19 - Anima Mage – Vestige metamagic 2/ day, Soulbinding +7, +1 Spellcasting level 20 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +8, +1 Spellcasting level +1 Cha
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2012 - 7:58PM
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Jun 15, 2012
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You only need one level of binder if you take improved binding to get into anima mage. Unless there is some other reason you are killing caster levels.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2012 - 8:38PM
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Main reason was because the bonus feat at 4th level Binder would be handy... But I guess it could be done without...
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2012 - 9:27PM
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It SHOULD be done without. First Commandment of Optimization, dood: Thou shalt not sacrifice caster levels.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 10, 2012 - 10:49PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 24, 2012
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Alright then , well here's a revised version. Another 2 levels of caster gained, but still 2 levels missing. Any presitge class worth taking for level 20 that will increse my caster level and keep with the flavour?
1 - Dread Necro – Charnel touch, rebuke undead Tomb-tainted Soul, Corpse Crafter 2 - Dread Necro – Lich body DR 2 3 - Dread Necro – Negative energy burst 1/ day Destruction Retribution 4 - Dread Necro – Advanced Learning (Kelgore’s Grave Mist), Mental Bastion +2 +1 Dex 5 - Dread Necro – Fear Aura 6 - Dread Necro – Scabrous touch 1/ day Metamagic: Extend Spell 7 - Dread Necro – Lich body DR 4, Summon Familiar (Ghostly Visage) 8 - Dread Necro – Advanced Learning (Shivering Touch), Negative energy burst 2/ day, Undead mastery +1 Cha 9 - Binder – Soul binding (1 vestige) Improved Binding 10 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +1, +1 Spellcasting level 11 - Anima Mage – Exploit vestige, Soulbinding +2, +1 Spellcasting level 12 - Anima Mage – Vestigial awareness, Soulbinding +3, +1 Spellcasting level Spell Focus: Necromancy 13 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +4, +1 Spellcasting level +1 Cha 14 - Anima Mage – Vestige metamagic 1/ day, Soulbinding +5, +1 Spellcasting level 15 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +6, +1 Spellcasting level Improved Spell Focus: Necromancy 16 - Anima Mage – Vestige metamagic 2/ day, Soulbinding +7, +1 Spellcasting level +1 Cha 17 - Anima Mage – Soulbinding +8, +1 Spellcasting level 18 – Anima Mage – Vestige metamagic 3/ day, Soulbinding +9, +1 Spellcasting level Metamagic: Persist Spell 19 – Anima Mage -Vestige casting, Soulbinding +10, +1 Spellcasting level 20 – Binder – Pact Augmentation (1 ability), Suppress sign +1 Cha
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 7:04AM
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Why not just go back into DN?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 5:35PM
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9th level of DN is 100% useless to me. (minus the caster level thing)
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 6:26PM
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Nov 11, 2012
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9th level of DN is 100% useless to me. (minus the caster level thing)
Plus Anima Mage 10 + Binder 2 = Binder Effective Level 12 = can bind 6th level Vestiges
If you had put this last level on DN, so your Binder Level would be 11, and that is just able to bind 5th or lower Vestiges (not that are too many great and useful Vestiges of 6th level lol, but it's cool to maximize this ability).
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7 months ago ::
Nov 11, 2012 - 7:50PM
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Actually one 6th level vestige that is very good is found in this online source: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070718
Zceryll, "The Star Spawn"
Is very good.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 6:44AM
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Couple obvious things. First off, what the hell is up with your feat choices? Spell Focus is beyond awful, TTS is totally unecessary, as you should already be a Necropolitan, Destructive Retribution is near the worst of the Corpsecrafter line, and Extend/Persist has no real synergy with DN that I can see.
And, more importantly, WHY did you take a level of Binder? Totally unecessary, especially since you're not starved for feats.
But, before I can get any more specific, I need to ask: what do you want your DN to actually do?
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