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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:42PM #41
Seerow
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:39PM, Mand12 wrote:

It's the part where he's lying, either to himself or to us, about having given up on 5e entirely.




Did you miss the part where he said he has not given up on 5e, it was the rest of his gaming group who had?


And either way, the group had given up on it due to not liking what the playtest indicated. If the playtest's next packet suddenly showed a 180 and made a game they would enjoy, I doubt they'd shrug their shoulders and say "too little too late". Feedback saying "I don't like this" is every bit as important as anything else. 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:43PM #42
Vic_Ferrari
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:42PM, Seerow wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:39PM, Mand12 wrote:

It's the part where he's lying, either to himself or to us, about having given up on 5e entirely.




Did you miss the part where he said he has not given up on 5e, it was the rest of his gaming group who had?




Ha.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:44PM #43
Mand12
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Dangling modifiers - even if he meant his group and not him, that wasn't clear.

Also, he's said likewise elsewhere.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:44PM #44
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Im still routing for the game and hoping to see some structure along side the creative splashes and actually the use of maneuvers by rogues and fighters is a good sign to me.

(have not given up --- still worried)

Improvisation in 4e: Improv. Attacks(by wrecan) - Fave 4E Improvisations

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:46PM #45
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 12:29PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

lame, boring, mundane, non-heroic.



I really really hope you provided more detail than you have in your forum posts.  Despite a few weeks of repeating these words, I still have absolutely no idea what you're actually asking them to do.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:47PM #46
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:39PM, Mand12 wrote:

It's the part where he's lying, either to himself or to us, about having given up on 5e entirely.




I was talking about other people, who have given up, being talked into continuing to provide negative feedback despite having given up. 

...whatever
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:54PM #47
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:47PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:39PM, Mand12 wrote:

It's the part where he's lying, either to himself or to us, about having given up on 5e entirely.




I was talking about other people, who have given up, being talked into continuing to provide negative feedback despite having given up. 





So providing negative feedback without actually having tested anything...If I did this in my job, being a tester, I would be fired.  Good to know your contaminating the responses with people that haven't even played the material.  I'm not even going to be filling out the thing until probably next weekend after I get a chance to do a quick game with some people (last weekend was out due to regularly scheduled game and this weekend is out due to my nieces birthday which I have to travel for) so we can actually see the thing in action.  Providing feedback right now would be faulty because I haven't actually tested anything.  Essentially I have looked at the code, don't fully understand it, and have yet to execute any tests in any environment.  Saying good or bad at the moment would be a faulty response.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:56PM #48
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I've removed content from this thread. Baiting/Trolling is a violation of the Code of Conduct.

You can review the Code of Conduct here: http://company.wizards.com/conduct

Remember to keep your posts polite and on topic and refrain from personal attacks. 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 4:14PM #49
thecasualoblivion
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:54PM, SleepsInTraffic wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:47PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:39PM, Mand12 wrote:

It's the part where he's lying, either to himself or to us, about having given up on 5e entirely.




I was talking about other people, who have given up, being talked into continuing to provide negative feedback despite having given up. 





So providing negative feedback without actually having tested anything...If I did this in my job, being a tester, I would be fired.  Good to know your contaminating the responses with people that haven't even played the material.  I'm not even going to be filling out the thing until probably next weekend after I get a chance to do a quick game with some people (last weekend was out due to regularly scheduled game and this weekend is out due to my nieces birthday which I have to travel for) so we can actually see the thing in action.  Providing feedback right now would be faulty because I haven't actually tested anything.  Essentially I have looked at the code, don't fully understand it, and have yet to execute any tests in any environment.  Saying good or bad at the moment would be a faulty response.




They rejected 5E on a fundamental level having experienced the first(and to a lesser extent the second) playtest). Things haven't fundamentally changed, so the rejection stands. That they haven't been following the specifics doesn't change anything about their continuing rejection of the continued presence of what they hated about the Next they did playtest. 

...whatever
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 4:16PM #50
Seerow
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 4:11PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:46PM, Mand12 wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 12:29PM, thecasualoblivion wrote:

lame, boring, mundane, non-heroic.



I really really hope you provided more detail than you have in your forum posts.  Despite a few weeks of repeating these words, I still have absolutely no idea what you're actually asking them to do.




Rest assured, I went into more detail than that.

As for my words, I have explained them in detail, many times, you must have missed it. That or you're just pretending to be ignorant, as I suspect you know exactly what I mean and are just playing semantic games as usual. Would it surprise you to hear that I consider you the worst poster here, worse than the Paizobots or vitriolic old schoolers, just robotically and uncritically giving vague optimism and trying to undercut everyone's opinions with nothing more than "it's early".  




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