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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 12:47PM #1
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D&D in the News
Could Disney buy Dungeons & Dragons?
2012 November 6
by Michael Tresca

MTV Geek floated a rumor that, hot on the heels of Disney purchasing Lucasfilm for nearly $4 billion, the Mouse House is in discussions to purchase Hasbro – and with it the Dungeons & Dragons brand.

Talk about this news here.

 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 12:52PM #2
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 I wouldn't worry about it (or hope for it) until we hear a more credible source or if the deal goes through.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 1:43PM #3
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Not only that but this is coming from a company which just purchased Indiana Jones and basically said "Eh, we could care less about that". These guys only bother themselves with properties that can generate BILLIONS in revenue. RPGs haven't done a billion $ in their entire history on Earth. If Disney did buy Hasbro they would probably not even notice the existence of D&D, let alone do anything with it. Heck, M:tG and all of WotC would mean nothing to them. I'd be more afraid of them just closing the whole thing down because they lack an motivation to be bothered about it.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 3:17PM #4
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Nov 7, 2012 -- 1:43PM, AbdulAlhazred wrote:

Not only that but this is coming from a company which just purchased Indiana Jones and basically said "Eh, we could care less about that". These guys only bother themselves with properties that can generate BILLIONS in revenue. RPGs haven't done a billion $ in their entire history on Earth. If Disney did buy Hasbro they would probably not even notice the existence of D&D, let alone do anything with it. Heck, M:tG and all of WotC would mean nothing to them. I'd be more afraid of them just closing the whole thing down because they lack an motivation to be bothered about it.




Unless they see that there is a possibility for them to turn those franchise into Billions in profit thru a better handling of the brand (i mean...there is no way Disney could handle the brand worst than WotC & Hasbro is doing it right now)

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 3:36PM #5
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Kingdom Hearts d20 lol. May actually be a fun game, my wife loved that game.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 4:21PM #6
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ugh, d20 (3rd edition based rules?) no thanks...i would rather let Squarenix design the game mechanics
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 4:40PM #7
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Erm you do realise 4th ed and D&DN are still d20 derivitives right? I just use d20 as its easier than typing 3.0/3.5/4th/PF/D&DN which all use the basic d20 mechanic.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 8:17AM #8
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Nov 7, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Zardnaar wrote:

Erm you do realise 4th ed and D&DN are still d20 derivitives right? I just use d20 as its easier than typing 3.0/3.5/4th/PF/D&DN which all use the basic d20 mechanic.



That's...rather inaccurate.

"d20" is a specific term, the name of third-party content based on 3e published under the OGL.

Not everything that involves rolling an actual 20-sided die is "d20" given this context.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 10:33AM #9
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Nov 8, 2012 -- 8:17AM, Mand12 wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 4:40PM, Zardnaar wrote:

Erm you do realise 4th ed and D&DN are still d20 derivitives right? I just use d20 as its easier than typing 3.0/3.5/4th/PF/D&DN which all use the basic d20 mechanic.



That's...rather inaccurate.

"d20" is a specific term, the name of third-party content based on 3e published under the OGL.

Not everything that involves rolling an actual 20-sided die is "d20" given this context.


It actually isn't all that clear-cut. If some 3PP had released 4e it would be considered an OGL licensed d20 game, albeit one that tweaks the d20 core rules a bunch. Considering that there are plenty of d20 based FRPGs that have diverged quite a lot from 3.x D&D that really isn't all that big a deal. The fact that it is a WotC published non-OGL game makes it a matter of debate as to if 4e can be considered 'd20' or not. In the most strict sense I guess it isn't, but in a more general sense it certainly falls within the umbrella of d20 type games.

Honestly, I'm not all that much of a fan of universal systems and I don't see vast value in things like d20 personally. Core rules are just not that hard to construct. D&D's value to a Disney would be as a brand and IP, and frankly it is reasonably well-known, but it isn't a brand that engages a lot of people. Nor is it one that has had a lot of mass-market success in any form. Bluntly D&D means some geeks and a couple VERY bad b-grade movies and some ancient video games to most people. It has some potential but I'd guess a Disney type company has a billion things around with "potential".

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 10:55AM #10
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I probably menat d20 D&D then. Strip away the powers and the 4th ed core is not dramatically different from Star Wars Saga or 3.5 core.

Skill points +3 if trained isn't that different from half level +5 if trained. Even the numbers are going to be similar.

 THe cores of the game are very similar beyond the generic roll a d20 add numbers beat a DC type mechanic. You could grab the 4th ed rules, rip the classes out and plug in 3.5 type classes if one wanted to although numbers would have to be tweaked of course. Its also not hard to add 4th ed powers to a 3.5/PF game.
Reducing a character to a list of dice rolls and modifiers is not role playing*

*pg 30, AD&D 2nd Ed DMG, 1989.
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