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Nov 12, 2012 - 2:30PM
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Well, we might, just might, get a half-way decent D&D movie or TV series, but I doubt it.
If disney does buy Hasbro (and by extension, WotC & D&D), then maybe 6th ed will have halflings with big ears and tails. (OK that's an old joke by now).
Chances are they will either ignore it, try to make it more profitable, or sell it off.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 12, 2012 - 2:34PM
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There is an alternative I don't see people addressing, Disney ordering Hasbro to split Wizards off. Wizards doesn't bring in enough money to be worth Disney's time and effort, then Wizards can try making it on its own.
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Nov 12, 2012 - 10:24PM
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Well, Wizards was doing well enough to buy TSR, and still be making a substantial enough profit to be bought by Hasbro. May not be in Disney's league, financially, but none of those companies has been around long enough to have theme parks and the movie clout, much less the corporate merchandising. Hasbro was working on it, but is too diverse.
What I hope for, actually, is that the quality and design of disney toys will start to drastically increase with Hasbro's input.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 13, 2012 - 6:08PM
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Well, Wizards was doing well enough to buy TSR, and still be making a substantial enough profit to be bought by Hasbro.
Just because Hasbro sees value in owning WotC does not mean Disney is going to see value in owning WotC.
And let us not forget that Hasbro bought Wizards in large part to get their hands on the Pokemon card game.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 14, 2012 - 3:58AM
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Well, Wizards was doing well enough to buy TSR, and still be making a substantial enough profit to be bought by Hasbro.
Just because Hasbro sees value in owning WotC does not mean Disney is going to see value in owning WotC.
And let us not forget that Hasbro bought Wizards in large part to get their hands on the Pokemon card game.
Ok explain to me, I'm not that hot on corporate economics, what about Wotc is a toxic asset that needs to be let go ?
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Nov 14, 2012 - 4:09AM
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Ok explain to me, I'm not that hot on corporate economics, what about Wotc is a toxic asset that needs to be let go ?
Not much. Sure, they have their share of games that flopped (Duelmasters anyone?), but D&D and especially Magic make up for that, if the stories of insiders are to be believed.
There was a thread on this when Next was announced a year back that contained links to stories by (former) WotC employees. The gist was that Magic was a hundreds of millions of dollars asset (not sure, may be a bit off), and that D&D needed to reach the same level. This couldn't be done with 4E, so they cut their losses and started developing yet another edition.
Anyway, Wizards is almost literally printing money with Magic. Each set is apparently selling better than the one before it. Magic Online is even better: there they don't even have to print physical cards to get people to spend their cash, they just have to keep the servers going. So any company that lets WotC go is making a huge mistake.
The only danger of Disney buying Wizards is that they might discontinue a lot of products that they don't see the value of. One of which could be D&D. But whether that would happen is almost impossible to predict and depends entirely on the goals of the new owner.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 14, 2012 - 6:24PM
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The only danger of Disney buying Wizards is that they might discontinue a lot of products that they don't see the value of. One of which could be D&D. But whether that would happen is almost impossible to predict and depends entirely on the goals of the new owner.
It's probably the worst-case outcome if Disney buys Hasbro.
Whereas if Hasbro continues to be independent and own WotC and D&D, in my opinion it's the best-case outcome. And more likely to happen than if Disney is involved.
"The world does not work the way you have been taught it does. We are not real as such; we exist within The Story. Unfortunately for you, you have inherited a condition from your mother known as Primary Protagonist Syndrome, which means The Story is interested in you. It will find you, and if you are not ready for the narrative strands it will throw at you..." - from Footloose
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8 months ago ::
Nov 14, 2012 - 6:27PM
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Ok explain to me, I'm not that hot on corporate economics, what about Wotc is a toxic asset that needs to be let go ?
Not making enough money.
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8 months ago ::
Nov 15, 2012 - 5:21AM
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Ok explain to me, I'm not that hot on corporate economics, what about Wotc is a toxic asset that needs to be let go ?
Not making enough money.
Pray tell, where did you get that from?
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Nov 15, 2012 - 12:26PM
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Pray tell, where did you get that from?
From TSR. They closed down a number of games, and campaign settings, because management didn't see the company making enough money from the line to satisfy them. Didn't stop them from releasing the game or setting, it did stop them from supporting it to the extent they could've.
You may not see Wizards as not worth their time, I may not see Wizards as not worth their time, but Disney may see Wizards as not worth their time. It would be their company, through a proxy, their decision.
As the Dille Family Trust told Lorraine Willaims regarding TSR, "Sell it."
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