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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 11:40AM
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And the Thundering Vortex power notes otherwise.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 11:45AM
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Not if you are a Shielding Swordmage. At least admit that there may be two equally valid interpretation here then. One of them literally doesn't give a duration as compared to other powers that do when the target is marked by your Aegis of Shielding.
Aegis of Shielding: The target is marked by your aegis of shielding.
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Aegis of Shielding: The target is instead marked by your aegis of shielding until the end of your next turn.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 11:57AM
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No, there aren't. Indentations for riders only change the things they say they change. If something from the previous, non-intended line, isn't specifically changed, then it isn't. The line says the target is Marked until EoNT. The rider changes it to marked by your Aegis. But since it didn't change the duration, it is marked by your Aegis until EoNT.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 11:58AM
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It doesn't say anything about duration in the rider, therefore it doesn't override the power.
Aegis of Shielding, the power, is general. Thundering Vortex is specific. The rider is always subject to the power containing the rider. If the rider doesn't specify a thing, then the power wins, not other things referenced by the rider.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:46PM
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It doesn't matter if its an indentation or not. Other Sowrdmage Power with identical indentations and effect do state a duration for target marked by your Aegis of Shielding but Thundering Vortex doesn't.
RAW Thundering Vortex doesn't say the target is marked by your aegis of shielding until the end of your next turn.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:49PM
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What?
Yes it does. This is the basics of how riders function.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:50PM
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It doesn't matter if its an indentation or not. Other Sowrdmage Power with identical indentations and effect do state a duration for target marked by your Aegis of Shielding but Thundering Vortex doesn't.
RAW Thundering Vortex doesn't say the target is marked by your aegis of shielding until the end of your next turn.
So you're just ignoring the rules for formating powers then. Right.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:54PM
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No i am not ignoring power formatting. Indentation only means that it is contengent of a Hit.
What i say is that not because the effect is in an indentation that it specifically has a duration when it doesn't say one, since other simlar powers with identical indentations do specifically give a duration.
Yan
Montréal, Canada
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:55PM
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Right. The indentation does not specifically say the duration, therefore you go to the one in the power that contains the indented section.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 08, 2012 - 12:57PM
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Or you dont and just go with what it says:
The target is marked by your aegis of shielding. (with no duration)
Yan
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