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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 3:08AM
#81
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I think this could only help D&D related toons and movies. Other stuff D&D related, Im not sure.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 3:29AM
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Understand something simple: Corporations are ultimatley driven by and are solely interested in profit.
If an asset has potential value, it will be exploited in a deliberate (and at times an obviously greedy and clumsy) way. The Disney corporation won't care about the legacy of D&D or Gygax and Arneson. They won't look at how long it takes to play test a product to get it right and think that it's a good thing. They don't care about the significant cultural aspects developed through RPG games. They will want to know how much money D&D makes, and what potential it has to make more money. D&D will become an asset with a marked number on it.
The only thing that could save D&D really is if Disney doesn't actually consider it too much of a loss to keep around.
We all come to these forums for a reason. We LOVE RPGs. D&D is our baby too. Someone will always want to keep this game alive. The worst case scenario would be that Disney gets a hold of Hasbro, looks at D&D and decides its worthless, then shelves it so no one can make a profit off of it. If that were to happen, we would have less luck finding new players and dice....
Only WotC can give an accurate reading on the situation though, because they have the record of profits. Let's just all pray that this aqcuisition doesn't kill our favorite game!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 3:45AM
#83
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While people who are really really into comics instead of just pretty into comics might know otherwise, the Marvel acquisition seems to have been only pretty dang good for Marvel. They're basically still doing their own thing, but with a little more support behind them.
Regarding Disney's lawyers doing crazy stuff to Paizo or whatever -
Disney may be somewhat bigger (it's ten times bigger in terms of stuff like revenue) and somewhat more evil (evil is difficult to quantify) than Hasbro, but Hasbro is still a ginormo company. It's possible that Disney will be more interested in trying to lawyer the heck out of competitors taking advantage of an unusual legal setup of their subsidiary's subsidiary's B-side product, associated with the version of that product from ten years ago, but it also seems very possible that they would be not any more interested in doing that than Hasbro's been.
People really really into comics can tell you that comics have been in decline since either year X or year Y.
X = the year when that particular person was a kid and first enjoyed a comic.
or even sadder
Y = the year a hipster deicided was the cool year he was going to champion so he can be cool like thos old guys.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 3:49AM
#84
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Jun 15, 2006
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About D&D franchise we should do a differentation: the IP (intellectual property) and the RPG (d20 system).
I suposse Disney wants IPs, and D&D can be a true gold mine.
Disney doesn´t need D&D copyright to made a fantasy cartoon show, but.... I wouldn´t be surprised if they try made their equivalent to LotR+Hobbits trilogies...can you imagine stories by Pixar (Brave, the Increibles..) with D&D licence? (I am almost sure a movie or teleserie about haflings and gnomes like main character, or it may be about a magical girls).
About RPG system... the worst one could happen would be the new system weren´t so popular like Pathfinder rpg.
* I had thought lots of time about d20 Spectacular, the d20 Modern soucerbook never was published. I have wonder how a d20 superheroes would be... I don´t talk about Mutant&Mastermind but level 1 PCs are Iron Man and Hackweye fighting alien invanders.
If Disney buys Hasbro.... I can imagine a d20 marvel superheroes...but... it isn´t so easy so be designed. Superheroes are very different, some are too powerful, and others haven´t got superpowers or expensive weapons..Batman and Superman, Hulk and Daredevil, kick-ass & Hit-girl, Nemesis and Superior, Thor and Punisher, Green Arrow and Wonder Woman..different level of power.. and finding the right balance isn´t easy if we talk about a RPG system like d20.
"Say me what you're showing off for, and I'll say you what you lack!" (Spanish saying)
Book 13 Anaclet 23
Confucius said: "The Superior Man is in harmony but does not follow the crowd. The inferior man follows the crowd, but is not in harmony"
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 3:53AM
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Disney IS buying Hasbro. These news articles are not surfacing for illegitimate reasons.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 4:25AM
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Perhaps we'd actually get a decent D&D movie out of it?
+1
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 4:26AM
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TBH, I highly doubt this happens. If it does, however unlikely, I would place my bets on Disney spinning off the WotC brand as a new independent company, as the brands WotC holds are valuable to a niche market but not enough that it really helps Disney anyway.
This is never going to happen. Disney, just like Hasbro, is an IP hoarder. They would rather a valuable brand name like D&D sit on the shelf collecting dust for 50 years than let it go to a competitor. Just like Hasbro, Disney has a habit of going back to that shelf every now and then to blow the dust off and resurrect a brand for a short while before letting it languish again in limbo. This is standard fad brand management. Once Disney owns the rights to D&D, it's never going anywhere.
If confirmed, this the absolute death blow to those of you who hoped and prayed that Paizo would get the D&D brand off of Hasbro.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 4:26AM
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 4:31AM
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One concern I have is how the Disney morality police could intervene in the lore and fluff of D&D. Disney has a squeeky clean image and has suppressed brands in the past who havn't adhered to that image. D&D has all kinds of devils, demons and the like. I have a hard time seeing another "Book of Vile Darkness" coming out under Disney's watch. There's still a lot of people out there who think people who play D&D are somehow engaging in a scary activity. I hate to say it, but the "Mazes and Monsters" perception still exists. I fear how Disney might try to "clean up" the image of D&D to keep the parent company looking kid friendly.
Want to know more about the history of D&D, especially how to play older editions of the game? Check out Crazy Monkey's "Tour through the editions":
http://community.wizards.com/crazymonkey/go/forum/view/133793/225799/Asylum_Play-by-Post
The current edition is BECMI, the most popular form of Basic D&D and the adventure is the classic Red Box quest to kill Bargle the evil magic user. Check it out, learn about the games roots, and enjoy the story as it unfolds.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 06, 2012 - 4:41AM
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Disney couldnt do a worse job at marketing the brand.
Marketing a trend means appealing to popular culture.
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