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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 7:14AM #101
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Do you rebember the Aladin TV show? It was one of my favorites. Disney could made a "al-Quadim" TV show with style of Aladdin cartoon and it could be a good serie.

It was like if Aladdin were inspired by the Fogorten Realms spin-off.

* I wonder the next one will be cryptic studios.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 7:32AM #102
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If it means they add a Forgotten Realms Land to Epcot, I'll move to Florida to go there daily.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 8:42AM #103
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Nov 5, 2012 -- 6:59PM, Foxface wrote:

If Disney created a very specific version of a goblin, specific enough to be trademarked or copywrit, and paizo or another company used it without permission, then Disney sues them to hell and back. But the goblin in the ogl is 1) not that specific and 2) not owned by Disney , even if Disney buys d&d via hasbro. D&D has no claim to "goblin" any more than Disney has claim to Snow White. They own their particular version of Snow White, true. But not all Snow White's are the same. Theirs sings and has a blue and yellow dress with a red ribbon and lives with 7 dwarfs with silly nicknames. Mine would have different defining characteristics. Same with d&d.




Disney currently has a patent pending for the name Snow White.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 9:08AM #104
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 8:42AM, Maxperson wrote:

Disney currently has a patent pending for the name Snow White.



I think you mean trademark. Public Domain material can be trademarked, copyrighted, sold, and commercialized in other ways. It however, cannot be removed from the public domain. Only the newer versions that are trademarked, copyrighted, sold and commercialized in other ways are bound by the legal restrictions placed on them.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 9:19AM #105
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 9:08AM, QuietNinja wrote:

Nov 6, 2012 -- 8:42AM, Maxperson wrote:

Disney currently has a patent pending for the name Snow White.



I think you mean trademark. Public Domain material can be trademarked, copyrighted, sold, and commercialized in other ways. It however, cannot be removed from the public domain. Only the newer versions that are trademarked, copyrighted, sold and commercialized in other ways are bound by the legal restrictions placed on them.




Yeah.  I did mean trademark.  Thanks

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:20AM #106
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 5:40AM, sgt_d wrote:

I honestly don't think that any of the WotC IP is what is making Disney even consider this.



I think only in the most general sense.  Disney did not simply buy Marvel because their Avengers Movie looked promising based on the component preceding movies.  They bought Marvel because Disney is a company that buys stables of characters from which to synergize their vast entertainment empire.  That's why they bought Jim Henson's Muppets.  Why they bought Pixar.  Why they bought Club Penguin.  And why they bought Marvel.  Few companies have the reservoir of iconic characters that these companies do.  (I'd be surprised if Disney does not buy Blizzard or a similar company next.)

HASBRO also has a vast stable of characters.  Transformers, GI Joe and My Little Pony are a huge part of it (and I wouldn't be surprised to see Club Penguin soon add a Club Pony), but all of their games are recognizable IP with a serious value, and D&D is among them.  The licensing rights to D&D are more important than the game itself, and the game is probably looked on as a loss leader that keeps the IP current and valuable. 

Also, keep this in mind.  If Transformers were the only thing that made Hasbro an attractive purchase, then Battleship would have made it equally unattractive!  If anything, Battleship's flop probably depressed the price enough to make it affordable!

What would be nice is if Disney can correct Hasbro's error of not attributing sales of D&D merchanidse to the success of the D&D brand.  For some legacy reason, Hasbro attributed those sales to something like the books division of Wizards, rather than the game.  Disney is a brand company in the way that Hasbro is not, so it is possible that this will work out better for D&D in the long-run, and ease the pressure on the company to make the unrealistic sales expectations that Hasbro placed on 4e.

I don't see Disney making D&D cartoons for TV.  Phineas & Ferb is the last new cartoon series they've released in years on Disney Channel and they have been very vocally moving over to the tween live-action market.   I suspect if this sale goes through Hasbro's HUB will be folded into Disney XD (and thus into even more obscurity).  They only make about four animated series at a time.  I suspect My Little Pony will make it into that foursome.  Would D&D be a future concept?  no idea.  Would be fun though.  At a minimum, maybe they can throw up reruns of the original D&D cartoon (if Hasbro has the rights to it).

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:27AM #107
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 2:31AM, Luis_Carlos wrote:

I admit I have thought it would be joke but it can reasonably possible. Now it wouldn´t be a surprise.

Wait a moment..if Disney buy Hasbro...shall we see Star Wars and Marvel Superheroes rpg by WotC? It would be design of a new d20 Modern. Superheroes is a genre too dificoult to be designed for RPGs with levels or like d20 system. It would need years of playtesting, martial artists vs soldiers combats, spellcaster vs mechas...

But.... if it could be true....I hope new WotC and Hasbro titles for children and teenages could be with neutre ideology. Would G.I.Joe be enough pro-Northamerican patriotic?




G.I. Joe and war is not patriotic. In fact according to the U.S. constitution we aren't supposed to have a standing army or go to war except in our direct defense...Smile

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:49AM #108
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 5:14AM, Phobos wrote:

Nov 6, 2012 -- 3:29AM, Sands666 wrote:

Understand something simple: Corporations are ultimatley driven by and are solely interested in profit. 




Not true, some of them also value public reputation.  To kill D&D would look bad for Disney.

Assuming this is even true, I think it would be (could be) a good thing.  Hasbro is a boardgame company (Magic included).  D&D is not their bread and butter, or cup of tea.  I think Disney may take a new approach on it, and I do think they may make better marketing choices, and movies!!




Why does a company want good PR?  Ultimately, MONEY!

The aqcuisition of Hasbro by Disney would have been a good thing for D&D except for one thing. Disney isn't buying Hasbro because of it's products like D&D, it is buying Hasbro because they have the rights to the Star Wars toys.  Disney wants to syngergize it's recent purchase of Lucasfilms. D&D is just getting caught up in the tide.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:52AM #109
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:49AM, Sands666 wrote:

Disney isn't buying Hasbro because of it's products like D&D, it is buying Hasbro because they have the rights to the Star Wars toys.  Disney wants to syngergize it's recent purchase of Lucasfilms. D&D is just getting caught up in the tide.



First of all, LucasArts has the rights to the toys.  Hasbro has a license, which can terminate.  If Disney were buying Hasbro for Star Wars toys, they're idiots.  They already own the toy rights by buying LucasArts

Disney buys IP.  Hasbro has a ton of IP.  That's why they would buy Hasbro.

Eve if true, it does not spell a deathknell for D&D.  Disney isn't likely to shelve Monopoly or Scrabble simply because they bought  Hasbro for some of their toys.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 11:04AM #110
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Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:52AM, wrecan wrote:

Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:49AM, Sands666 wrote:

Disney isn't buying Hasbro because of it's products like D&D, it is buying Hasbro because they have the rights to the Star Wars toys.  Disney wants to syngergize it's recent purchase of Lucasfilms. D&D is just getting caught up in the tide.



First of all, LucasArts has the rights to the toys.  Hasbro has a license, which can terminate.  If Disney were buying Hasbro for Star Wars toys, they're idiots.  They already own the toy rights by buying LucasArts

Disney buys IP.  Hasbro has a ton of IP.  That's why they would buy Hasbro.

Eve if true, it does not spell a deathknell for D&D.  Disney isn't likely to shelve Monopoly or Scrabble simply because they bought  Hasbro for some of their toys.




From everything I have read, it seems like they are mostly interested in Star Wars toys.

"Hasbro holds the toy and table top game licenses to the now Disney-owned Star Wars"

What they do with D&D?  That is unclear... My guess is that they either leave it alone, or shelve it. 

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