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7 months ago ::
Dec 18, 2012 - 11:09AM
#381
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Oma, stop trying to play word games, read the section under Damage Types in the rules.
Acid effects work when you interact with acid not when you are attacked with acid, is the first that you need understand.
Remember what I said about saying Acid isn`t Acid was &$%ing Idiotic, if being splashed with acid isn`t interacting with acid, then you are just showing how you are attempting to manilpulate the rules and how desperate your stance is.
BTW, Melf`s Acid Arrow. Does it do it`s Acid Damage Instantly or per round
sorry but that not are under Damage Type are Under Energy Section.
easy example under your logic the acid flask deal 2d6 of acid damage one as decribed in her entry and other in the next or the same turn because is one acid effect.
the other way is that this is an acid effect but because not are a round of exposure this weapon only deal the described damage not the extra damage for be an acid effect.
in the 2 ways or not is the same or you need 6 full seconds to take 1d6 of acid damage.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 18, 2012 - 11:17AM
#382
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Melf`s Acid Arrow does Acid Damage,
Does it do that damage Instantly or does it do the damage per round.
Is it the same damage as a flask or is it an acid effect.
Simple questions Oma. Answer them or admit you are wrong.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 18, 2012 - 11:20AM
#383
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Melf`s Acid Arrow does Acid Damage,
Does it do that damage Instantly or does it do the damage per round.
Is it the same damage as a flask or is it an acid effect.
Simple questions Oma. Answer them or admit you are wrong.
very easy as described in her entry not as described in Acid effect then not are the same.
as example Melf Acid arrow only do the damage described not her damage plus the acid effect.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 18, 2012 - 8:13PM
#384
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Not what I asked
-Does Melf's Acid Arrow do Acid Damage?
Answer, Yes it does. In point of fact it deals "2d4 points of Acid Damage". This is a fact.
Page 42 of the Rules Compendium, Damage Types: Weapons: do Slashing, Blungeoning or Piercing Energy: does any of the 5 Energy types, Acid, Cold, Fire, Electricity and Sonic.
That is page 42 of the rules compendium saying that Acid Damage is an Energy Effect. "Abilities and effects that employ one of the five energy types deal energy damage" Flip over to page 48 to confirm this, Under ENERGY this is the heading that covers Acid Effects, and your 10d6 Acid pit, it makes it clear refering to attacks that deal damage of the energy type or that use that energy (example Acid Damage).
So, Yes Melf's Acid Arrow is an Acid Effect.
So does Melf's Acid Arrow do damage instantly or per round, and if per round when does it do the damage each round? should be a simple question Oma
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 8:58AM
#385
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ok again what have to be the kind of damage to the rules to apply the damage????
as example what have to do a grapple with a tunnel collapse
Yes Melf's Acid Arrow do ACID DAMAGE but don't is an Acid Effect is a Spell
Yes if you Swim in a Pool of acid you take ACID damage but not is a spell is an Acid effect
whit this you can say "a character with acid resistan can apply it to both Spells that deal acid damage and acid effects"
if you are saying that the Melf's Acid Arrow is an Acid effect then why it deal 2d4 instead of 1d6 or instead of 2d4 pluss 1d6???
Again if are the same i am right in the part that you need a full round to deal the acid effect damage for it this spell only do 2d4 instead of 2d4 plus 1d6.
If not are the same then i am right.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 10:16AM
#386
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"ok again what have to be the kind of damage to the rules to apply the damage???? "
Everytime you ask that you show how completely out of touch with the rules you are. Because what kind of damage effects damage Reduction, Damage Resistance, Immunity, Weakness and a host of other conditions.
Acid is Energy. Not all fires do 1d6 damage (hey Fireball is Fire Energy) do they? 1d6 is only the base damage for these effects.
There are 5 energy types in the game, Acid, Cold, Fire, Electricity and Sonic.
Everything that does Acid Damage is Energy Damage.
-A Flask of Acid Is Acid Energy, -Melf's Acid Arror is Acid Energy -your pit of Acid is Acid Energy
It explicitely says so in Page 42 and 48 of the Rules Compendium, and no amount of word games will change that, the rules outright explain that these are all Acid effects. Enough Word games, a simple Yes or No suffices for these two simple questions.
-Does Melf's Acid Arrow for instant damage or Damage per round? -Does Melf's Acid Arror do damage at the beginning of the round or after a full round of exposure?
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 10:38AM
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Does Melf's Acid Arrow do Instant Damage or Damage per round?
It does both, and works just like any other acid effect.
When hit with an Acid Arror you take instant damage. If it was a level 1 caster then that is all the damage you take from it. End of effect, so if you cast a spell afterwards that same round, you don't make a concentration check from it.
However it deals that instant damage in damage "per round" that insatnt effect counts as a round of exposure. for you see...
If it was a higher level caster it could last for multple rounds or the same damage as a lower level caster.
In the case that it lasts for 2 rounds, You take the first round of damage instantly, and if you are casting a spell during that round (like in the above case) you would need to make a concentration check for half that damage.
On the start of the second round you would take a second round of damage. As the effect lasts 2 rounds you will no longer be effected if you cast a spell.
Examples: (initiative order is Enemy Caster then you) Caster: Casts low level Melf's Acid arror, you take damage You: cast a spell like normal
Example 2:
Caster: casts Melf's Acid arrow, high enough for 3 rounds of damage, You take instant damage You: Cast a spell, make concentration check
Caster: You take 2nd round of damage, caster makes his turn You: You cast a spell, make a concentration check
Caster : You take 3rd round of damage, effect ends, Caster takes his turn You: You cast a spell as normal.
There you go, that's how Acid effects work.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 10:44AM
#388
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1- Yes Acid is Energy. 2- Yes Fireball is Energy and deal damage as described in her own rules. 3- Yes are 5 energy types 4- Yes Anithing that do Acid Damage do Energy Damage 5- Yes Acid Flask of Acid, Melf's Acid Arrow and A pit of Acid are Acid Energy 6- Yes you are right about that all of this are Acid energy damage as saying in pag 42 of RC 7- Sorry Under the rules of pag 48 of RC under the section of SPECIAL SITUATIONS
"Some forms of energy can have other effects."
Acid Effects Corrosive acid deals 1d6 points of damage per round of exposure. Total immersion in acid deals 10d6 points of damage per round. The fumes from most acids are inhaled poisons. Those who come close enough to a large body of acid to dunk a creature in it are exposed to the fumes. Such creatures must succeed on a DC 13 Fortitude save or take 1 point of Constitution damage. If the first save fails, the creature must succeed on a second save 1 minute later or take another 1d4 points of Constitution damage. Creatures immune to acid might still drown in it (see Suffocation, page 141) if they’re totally immersed.
8- As described in her own Rules Melf's Acid Arrow do damage at contact and again in the next round in the same initiative count.
Now a Pool of acid have rules to do damage or to be used in an attack???? nop then you call for an acid effect.
Again not are the same Rule set. this pool deal damage
If you want that Melf's acid arrow be an acid effect then you need make Mel'f Acid Arrow "have other effects" and deal only 1d6 of damage per round of exposure
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 12:46PM
#389
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"Some forms of energy can have other effects."
Except you are applying it in reverse. Some forms of energy "can have other effects" other then the effects listed below.
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7 months ago ::
Dec 19, 2012 - 1:20PM
#390
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"Some forms of energy can have other effects."
Except you are applying it in reverse. Some forms of energy "can have other effects" other then the effects listed below.
I dont play it in reverse.
This come in "SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE" Entry then only work while the standard don't apply like a non-attack.
Pepe pecas pica papas con un pico con un pico pepe pecas pica papas si pepe pecas pica papas con un pico donde esta el pico con que pepe pecas pica papas.
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