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Flag hordstyle October 31, 2012 11:13 PM PDT
New DM here. First post ^_^.

Just wanted to know how they can survive as pirates there. Im assuming theres no air in the astral sea? Its kinda hard to not implode under those circumstances.
Flag ToeSama November 1, 2012 3:59 AM PDT
Creatures can breathe in the Astral Sea without issue, and there is no pressure issues that could crush them. Even a young baby could endure the Astral Sea with the proper precautions.

Happy Gaming
Flag mexrage November 1, 2012 7:26 AM PDT
Astral Sea is more like a plane or dimension and not Outer Space
Flag Salla November 1, 2012 10:29 AM PDT
What they said.

4e did away with completely inhospitable dimensions/planes, because there's no point for them to exist if you can't do anything there.
Flag Zardnaar November 1, 2012 6:07 PM PDT
Not sure on the 4th ed astral sea rules but in ealrier editions you did not need to eat there either. Quickest way to become immortal in D&D was to planeshift to the astral plane. IIRC Githyanki young were raised on the material plane. I don't think breathing was ever a problem on the astral plane/sea.
Flag AbdulAlhazred November 2, 2012 10:10 AM PDT

Nov 1, 2012 -- 6:07PM, Zardnaar wrote:

Not sure on the 4th ed astral sea rules but in ealrier editions you did not need to eat there either. Quickest way to become immortal in D&D was to planeshift to the astral plane. IIRC Githyanki young were raised on the material plane. I don't think breathing was ever a problem on the astral plane/sea.


Yeah, I don't recall anything different from that either. Time passes at 1/1000th of its normal rate in the Astral and you don't have to eat, breath, etc. Most of the time you won't even exist there in your material form. It is more a realm of abstract thought than of physical reality. Of course the Gith are a weird case being both very real and existing in an abstract non-physical realm...

Flag WhisperMagellan November 5, 2012 5:38 PM PST
But Githyanki could take entire spelljammer ships with them when they crossed back to the Astral Sea. Well, they could if they were using Elven ships. Of course, the Elves didn't like this...
Oh well.
That was 2-3 editions ago.
When there was wildspace, and breathing problems.
Flag Zardnaar November 6, 2012 1:41 PM PST
 Did anything ever come of the Spelljammer in Astral Sea idea in 4th? It was something I was kinda looking forward to. One of the 4th ed books I read a few years ago had pictures of ships in the astral sea but I can't remember what book it was.
Flag Sir_Joseph_the_Crowe November 6, 2012 2:40 PM PST
Magic. Boom.
Flag WhisperMagellan November 6, 2012 4:20 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 1:41PM, Zardnaar wrote:

 Did anything ever come of the Spelljammer in Astral Sea idea in 4th? It was something I was kinda looking forward to. One of the 4th ed books I read a few years ago had pictures of ships in the astral sea but I can't remember what book it was.



As far as I know, only as home-brew and house rules.
I've thought about doing it myself.
I remember way back when being confused by some of the rules, and consequently building foam-core models of the ships for reference. This resulted in total rewriting a lot of ship stats.

Flag Zardnaar November 6, 2012 4:24 PM PST
 I have a mint 2nd ed spelljammer boxed set. I was considering converting rules from Star Wars Saga to represent the ship types.  A tradesman for example might have stats remarkably similar to the stock  YT-1300 (falcon).
Flag MacEochaid November 12, 2012 9:31 AM PST
I ran a 4E Planescape campaign that was very spelljammery in that the players navigated by boat but the ship rules are pretty lackluster and my players got use to the idea that the ships were mostly setttings of battles, it didn't feel very dynamic. I just had a bunch of melee guys so I didn't really want to do a round of battle with just the ranged kids having anything to do.
Flag WhisperMagellan November 12, 2012 11:15 AM PST
That's what ballistae and catapults are for.
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