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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 3:23AM #1
Cardboardtube_Knight
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Some friends and I have a campagin going where I am swapping out our groups rogue for a Dragonborn Paladin of the Raven Queen who has the backstory that he got involved with the Raven Queen to stamp out the forces of Orcus that are spreading around the world because his family was killed by cultists of Orcus. To make a long story short, he was enslaved by these cultists and met a young half-elf woman, by the time they were rescued and taken to a Raven Queen Temple they had grown very close and were married.

The question I have is: Is the idea of a Dragonborn married to a Half-Elf woman too jarring? Would that kind of thing even happen? I can't find much background on Dragonborn culture in 4e for ideas, really.
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 4:59AM #2
zeratulcraft
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People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange. Sounds like a cool plot point. Wouldn't expect any children though.
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 5:20AM #3
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Raaargh! While dragonman may marry elf girl, magic heritage interferes with magic heritage meaning no fey dragon spawn. Tiefling x half-Elf = Tiefling but default fluff has dragonborn not interbreeding with other races!

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 8:38AM #4
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Oct 31, 2012 -- 4:59AM, zeratulcraft wrote:

People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange. Sounds like a cool plot point. Wouldn't expect any children though.



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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 11:31AM #5
Cardboardtube_Knight
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Oct 31, 2012 -- 4:59AM, zeratulcraft wrote:

People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange. Sounds like a cool plot point. Wouldn't expect any children though.




I tried to think of a reasonable way that these two could have kids, but aren't Dragonborn made in eggs? That would be extremly awkward since humans can't lay them. I really don't like the idea of having kids be around, they seem to be more of a distraction than anything.

Oct 31, 2012 -- 5:20AM, WolfLordBran wrote:

Raaargh! While dragonman may marry elf girl, magic heritage interferes with magic heritage meaning no fey dragon spawn. Tiefling x half-Elf = Tiefling but default fluff has dragonborn not interbreeding with other races!

*Chews on the Original Poster*

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So there's no cases of them interbreeding? That seems a bit odd, I mean I guess when I think back there have always been very few of the mixed races. Like there's no offical half-Dwarf or anything. What I really need to do is get my hands on a PHB and read more about Dragonborn as a referesher course.

Oct 31, 2012 -- 8:38AM, jetshield wrote:

Oct 31, 2012 -- 4:59AM, zeratulcraft wrote:

People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange. Sounds like a cool plot point. Wouldn't expect any children though.



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Not sure what's going on here.

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 1:31PM #6
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Oct 31, 2012 -- 4:59AM, zeratulcraft wrote:

People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange. Sounds like a cool plot point. Wouldn't expect any children though.




This, about a hundred times over (on all counts).

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 4:13PM #7
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There's always adoption.
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 4:52PM #8
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I really don't see why there would be any problem. Half-elves themselves are hybrids, to start with, and the dragonborn is your character so you get to dictate his views on inter-racial marriages.

As for children, the D&D world is already full of hybrids as is, half-dwarves or muls, half elves, even tieflings can be considered a sort of hybrid. Further, the dragon sorcerer got his/her powers through a blood line linking directly to an actual dragon. As both half-elves and dragonborn can be dragon sorcerers, I can see no reason why they couldn’t produce viable offspring together. 

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 6:43PM #9
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Oct 31, 2012 -- 11:31AM, Cardboardtube_Knight wrote:

I tried to think of a reasonable way that these two could have kids, but aren't Dragonborn made in eggs? That would be extremly awkward since humans can't lay them.




They could always adopt.

Also, strictly speaking, the fact that dragonborn lay eggs would be largely* irrelevant.  Assuming that dragonborn and humans could interbreed, it would be the female's anatomy that would decide how the birth would take place.  A human female could not lay an egg because she would not have the necessary hardware.  Likewise, a dragonborn female could not give live birth because her biology setup to function like that.

Also, fantasy settings often do not use real-life genetics and biology, and function off of magic and lego genetics instead.  And even if a fantasy setting does subscribes to a more consistent set of genetic rules, there's no reason why they have to be the exact same rules we would expect in the real world.


*Though not entirely.  Even assuming compatible genetics, the conditions instead a womb and instead an egg can be very different, which could affect the surviabilityof the offspring.  Though if this too can be just as easily handwaved.

Oct 31, 2012 -- 11:31AM, Cardboardtube_Knight wrote:

I really don't like the idea of having kids be around, they seem to be more of a distraction than anything.



Then there's your answer.  Besides, protagonist in fiction usually rarely need to worry about "minor" nuisances like the possibility pregnancy unless drama is the goal of the work.

Oct 31, 2012 -- 4:59AM, zeratulcraft wrote:

People love who they love, and PCs are almost always strange.




Also this.  Human and dragonborn psychology is basically the same, so there's no reason why members of the two races could not fall in love.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 01, 2012 - 7:17PM #10
Ringtail69
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in the first game of dnd i played in i had my lizardfolk barbarian fall in love with a teifling fighter (the fighter was a female) and the dm gave me a random percentile chance to see if cross breeding actually worked (by my luck it did) so i would say no matter the race it would be up to the dm and you if your pairing produced offspring.
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