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7 months ago  ::  Oct 30, 2012 - 2:48AM #11
WhisperMagellan
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Or just play without a leader.
the need for a "balanced party" is a total myth. you don't need all the roles.
I run a game where everyone is playing a striker. They kill everything.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 4:05AM #12
Olrox17
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A Dex/Cha, Skald Bard, using a bow (batarang). High Dex, so it's good at stealth. High Cha, so it's good at intimidation. Bard of all trades feat to be good at everything else.  Alchemist theme for the gadgets.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2012 - 10:15PM #13
Sanctuarykitten
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Nov 7, 2012 -- 4:05AM, Olrox17 wrote:

A Dex/Cha, Skald Bard, using a bow (batarang). High Dex, so it's good at stealth. High Cha, so it's good at intimidation. Bard of all trades feat to be good at everything else.  Alchemist theme for the gadgets.




A bow? They want to be Batman, not Green Arrow.

Shuriken, Boomerangs... Always available aren't they? 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 12:11PM #14
Sir_Joseph_the_Crowe
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Batman-Flavored leader?

Gggross!

innuendo aside... some sort of acrobatic rogue or fighter type should work.

I've seen lots of discussion about 'roles' in the party. They seem artificial. If you want to be a leader, just give the party an example worth following and encourage them to push themselves because you believe in them. Pick some diplomacy skills. Don't steal the glory. Be willing to share the burden, shoulder the responsibility and listen to the needs of the people who you would lead. Then sleep in a cave. Boom! Leader. Batman-Flavored Leader.


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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 12:17PM #15
Sir_Joseph_the_Crowe
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Nov 10, 2012 -- 10:15PM, Sanctuarykitten wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 4:05AM, Olrox17 wrote:

A Dex/Cha, Skald Bard, using a bow (batarang). High Dex, so it's good at stealth. High Cha, so it's good at intimidation. Bard of all trades feat to be good at everything else.  Alchemist theme for the gadgets.




A bow? They want to be Batman, not Green Arrow.

Shuriken, Boomerangs... Always available aren't they? 


What about the Bat-bow?

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 3:28PM #16
Planeswalker817
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Nah, if you're going Adam West Batman, then melee is a requirement.  How else will you get the BAM! and BASH! and WHACK! and IMPACTSOUNDEFFECT! stuff?
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 3:08PM #17
Matyr
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Personally I think that bat-man and leader cannot coexist in the same character.  But thats just my take on Batman.  Here is why I think this:

Batman - Dark Knight, Chaotic Good awesome at stealth and combat and gadgets etc.  Works alone or with one other doing similar tricks.

Leader - Enabler.  Different leaders enable in different ways, but the Leader should be granting attacks/saving throws/buffs to allies and be built to make the team work as a cohesive unit.

With those definitions, Batman Leader seems impossible in my mind. 
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 6:05AM #18
Olrox17
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Nov 10, 2012 -- 10:15PM, Sanctuarykitten wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 4:05AM, Olrox17 wrote:

A Dex/Cha, Skald Bard, using a bow (batarang). High Dex, so it's good at stealth. High Cha, so it's good at intimidation. Bard of all trades feat to be good at everything else.  Alchemist theme for the gadgets.




A bow? They want to be Batman, not Green Arrow.

Shuriken, Boomerangs... Always available aren't they? 



Reflavor away!  Mechanically, it's a bow, but fluff-wise, it's a batarang. 

Nov 15, 2012 -- 3:28PM, Planeswalker817 wrote:

Nah, if you're going Adam West Batman, then melee is a requirement.  How else will you get the BAM! and BASH! and WHACK! and IMPACTSOUNDEFFECT! stuff?



Thanks to its class features, a Skald Bard is very good in melee too. Good MBA out of the gate and some kick ass melee class powers. It's a very versatile combatant.

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