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7 months ago ::
Nov 14, 2012 - 10:56AM
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Would you accept the Harmonium as an evil organization?
I'm going to be totally honest: I can't place that organization. What's it from?
I'm really open to a answers. One person posited that from certain points of view, even the Harpers are evil. I'll go with it! "Evil" is a slippery definition. "Self-absorbed" can be evil. "Indifferent" can be evil. "Evil" can be evil.
And "organizations" can be less-than-organized. See: 1478 DR Zhentarim!
I chose the contest theme because Lesser Evils (surprise!) plays a little with these ideas. Who's evil? What if there's someone worse than them? What if they're willing to fight that someone worse? What if that evil person is doing something good? What if the windfall from their entire evil plan is actually going to help as many people as it hurts? What if it helps more? What if that "evil" person is someone you love?
So you can pretty much post anybody if you're game for making the argument.
But you cannot post that if you mean the instrument. Pianos are not evil. Unless they intentionally fall on someone.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 14, 2012 - 12:59PM
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Feb 21, 2012
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The King Priest in Dragonlance has disguised evil as a face of good worship Paladine before the fall of the city. This created the Cataclysm in Krynn and thus resulted a period of no priest for several centuries. Evil is shadowy and looks beautiful and good, wholesome and it is not obvious. I like the theme a lot because it allows to discuss evil in so called good people. I like evil shows up in a good race and evil race is actually the good person. I think it gives a chance look beyond the tiefling and the assimar. I rather see an evil assimar to see how developing the character. That is me I am not sure it is everyone.
I also I like this contest because it allow to show me that how people react to evil organizations. I go back and have to think about what is said. Then I have a moment "Oh yeah. That is true and I never thought of it."
I always wanted to see Shar corrupt Sheverash he is one shade lighter than those he would hunt the Drow. I want to see all that hatred to corrupt a person and they in turn become a more of Drow than a Drow. How far a person can go for the sake of revenge before he loose himself to hatred and just become as evil as though he swore to fight.
Perhaps I am little twisted inside.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 15, 2012 - 12:15AM
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Oct 26, 2008
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Would you accept the Harmonium as an evil organization?
I'm going to be totally honest: I can't place that organization. What's it from?
Like in your book Planescape is a setting where the nature of evil discussed all the time. Harmonium is a planar organization, ''serve'' as Sigil's police force. Their philosophy is easy to hate:
The secret of the multiverse? That’s simple, and every cutter in the Harmonium knows what it is: “The Harmonium is always right.” Look, the goal of every enlightened being in the multiverse is to live in perfect harmony with all others. Look around: Peace or war – those are the only true states of the multiverse. If a being and its neighbors got the same views, then there’s peace between them. When they don’t agree, that’s what causes war; one body figures it can use fists to convince the other.
Now, there’s some powers who say otherwise, but the Harmonium believes that peace is a better end than war. For one, all of a body’s work won’t get destroyed during times of peace. Families don’t get killed, kings can actually spend time ruling the people, scholars can study, and petitioners can raise their crops. Everybody, even the fiends on the Lower Planes, can prosper. On the other hand, the Harmonium says there’s only one way to have peace: their way. War or peace – squabble among each other or join the Harmonium – those are the only choices.
The Harmonium believes that the ultimate goal of the multiverse is universal harmony, and it’s ready to spread that belief to all those other sods out on the planes. If it takes thumping heads to spread the truth, well, the Harmonium’s ready to thump heads. Sure, there may not be peace right away, but every time the Harmonium gets rid of an enemy, the multiverse is that much closer to the universal harmony it was meant to have. And what happens once the Harmonium succeeds? (And it will succeed, that’s certain – just ask them.) That part’s simple. When everyone is in agreement with the Harmonium, a new golden age will begin. That’s why the Harmonium works so hard to get folks to conform – it’s all for their own good.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 15, 2012 - 12:48PM
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May 21, 2009
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AH! I should have guessed. Planescape is a setting I have nibbled at the edges of, always thinking, "Later, I am totally going to come back and dig into this." Love the Lady of Pain, and it sounds like I'd find the Harmonium pretty interesting too.
>>The King Priest in Dragonlance has disguised evil as a face of good worship Paladine before the fall of the city. This created the Cataclysm in Krynn and thus resulted a period of no priest for several centuries. Evil is shadowy and looks beautiful and good, wholesome and it is not obvious. I like the theme a lot because it allows to discuss evil in so called good people. I like evil shows up in a good race and evil race is actually the good person. I think it gives a chance look beyond the tiefling and the assimar. I rather see an evil assimar to see how developing the character. That is me I am not sure it is everyone.
I definitely agree!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 7:18AM
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AH! I should have guessed. Planescape is a setting I have nibbled at the edges of, always thinking, "Later, I am totally going to come back and dig into this." Love the Lady of Pain, and it sounds like I'd find the Harmonium pretty interesting too.
>>The King Priest in Dragonlance has disguised evil as a face of good worship Paladine before the fall of the city. This created the Cataclysm in Krynn and thus resulted a period of no priest for several centuries. Evil is shadowy and looks beautiful and good, wholesome and it is not obvious. I like the theme a lot because it allows to discuss evil in so called good people. I like evil shows up in a good race and evil race is actually the good person. I think it gives a chance look beyond the tiefling and the assimar. I rather see an evil assimar to see how developing the character. That is me I am not sure it is everyone.
I definitely agree!
Well... in religion allot of demons and the like are in fact fallen angels... and I don't think a corrupt assimar has been attempted yet. LOL, I may just use that in my campaign 
I'd love to read about a good character gone bad... even one of my fav characters (Artemis Entreri) is turning good these days... a flip would be nice
I wouldn't mind seeing Torm seduced by Shar to the dark side lol. Truly the most evil deed is to turn the best of us into the worst of us.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 7:33PM
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Feb 21, 2012
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I guess Shar does need a challenge. I mean look at who she hangs out with Hoar and Sheveresh.
I will put this in Elui blog posting with the bad grammer
Erin
Sorry for the shameless plug of self advertisement. Or perhaps I found you another book to write.
I see if I can work on stats for the Assimar going bad. It is matter how he/she went always interest me.
I love Artemis Enteri and Jarlaxle (bald men are so sexy).
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6 months ago ::
Nov 25, 2012 - 7:43AM
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Feb 16, 2008
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I pretty much confuse players in my game using the Zhentarium as allies and foes, because it sometimes means the Characters will face a Greater threat to the Realms. It really makes it fun when our games henge around the moral codes and some of the cloak and dagger begins to kick in because even if a couple of characters join the Black Network eventually they may have to deal with in fighting or deal with some particular cell within the Zhentarium even some of those NPC's that were growing on them as allies.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 28, 2012 - 11:07AM
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May 21, 2009
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Hrm. I'm not getting notifications on this thread all of a sudden. Sorry guys! Came by to mention you have three more days to enter. The cut off is 8:00 AM (EDIT: Pacific!), December 1st, because that is when I wake up. Looking like it might be a bit of a stretch to get to that short story...but hey, you all proved me wrong twice over with this contest, so I won't put my feet up yet! Also, I got confirmation that Lesser Evils will be the Book Club's next book after Shadowbane: Eye of Justice wraps up. Is your New Year's Resolution to read more awesome books? (It could be) Fallen aasimar is definitely interesting! And an excellent counterpoint to a good-aligned tiefling warlock. We'll see if one sneaks in at some point. Andrekan, that sounds not only like a FUN game, but also like you will very much enjoy Lesser Evils. 
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6 months ago ::
Dec 05, 2012 - 10:06PM
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May 21, 2009
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Hi all, The giveaway is over, and the winners have been drawn. Here are the winning entries. I'm still waiting to hear back from two of you, so if you see your name there and you haven't gotten an email from me, please check your spam filter! Thanks to everyone who entered, and I hope you all check out Lesser Evils (It's the next WotC Novels Book Club title!). Or, barring that, that you decide to make it a last minute holiday gift for someone!
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