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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:03AM
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As part of a conversation in another thread, the idea of simply answering common issues occured to me. So here I am sitting under the umbrella of "Alignment problems" in this thread, waiting for the rain to fall.
Have a specific problem with alignment in yoru game or an issue understanding it? Hit me up. I'll resolve it for you. Free of charge!
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:19AM
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what alignment is batman?
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:25AM
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what alignment is batman?
I say it really depends on the era.
In the beginning? I'd say Chaotic Good.
60s? Lawful Good.
Nolan's Batman? Lawful Evil.
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!)
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:31AM
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what alignment is batman?
I say it really depends on the era.
In the beginning? I'd say Chaotic Good.
60s? Lawful Good.
Nolan's Batman? Lawful Evil.
Nolan's batman as LE? wow. i'd say lawful good. while not abiding by the city's corrupt laws he abides by his own code while doing good.
im curious why you would attribute evil to that batman.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:37AM
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As part of a conversation in another thread, the idea of simply answering common issues occured to me. So here I am sitting under the umbrella of "Alignment problems" in this thread, waiting for the rain to fall.
Have a specific problem with alignment or an issue understanding it? Hit me up. I'll resolve it for you. Free of charge!
What is alignment for? If I don't have to use it if I don't want to then why should I want to use it? What makes it anything more than a theft of an interesting idea from Michael Moorcock and Poul Anderson fiction that was slapped with the label of "rule" to make everyone use it? What is it really supposed to DO for D&D?
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:41AM
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what alignment is batman?
Batman is Lawful Good.
(This assumes we are talking about the Batman that has been in comics for the last 70+ years and not alternate versions of Batman such as in Elseworlds or the like. That is to say, Batman's common media portrayal is as Lawful Good in comics, television and cinema. Occasionally alternate universes in comics show different kinds of Batman but that is beyond the scope of my answer since characters like Owlman are "Evil" Batman. And yes, I'm a giant comic book geek too)
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If you challenge me, prepare to be challenged. If you have something to offer as a fellow student, I will accept it. If you call yourself a master, prepare to be humbled. If you seek me, look to the path. I will be traveling it. #SuperDungeonMasterIITurbo
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:44AM
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what alignment is batman?
I say it really depends on the era.
In the beginning? I'd say Chaotic Good.
60s? Lawful Good.
Nolan's Batman? Lawful Evil.
Nolan's batman as LE? wow. i'd say lawful good. while not abiding by the city's corrupt laws he abides by his own code while doing good.
im curious why you would attribute evil to that batman.
He only has one law he abides by. "Do not kill". Other than that, he's willing to do anything to get to his enemies. Doesn't matter what it is. Even if it breaks other existing laws.
I feel it fits the idea of a lawful evil aligned character living by a code but otherwise doing anything to get what they want.
He even goes so far as to invade the privacy of every citizen of Gotham and becomes a borderline tyrant by doing that. The only reason the system is destroyed is because Lucious Fox was too valuable an ally to lose. I have no doubt Batman would have kept that system if not for Lucious.
Also, if that blows your mind, then I have a spoiler for you...>_>
The Joker won. He got Batman to break his one rule. (He killed two-face)
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!)
*Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb.
http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:45AM
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Lawful Neutral. He believes in the law but has such a warped view of what the law should be (He has done some things that were by no means Good in his pursuit of vigilante justice) thus he cannot be Lawful Good. He might think he's Good but what he does often blurs the line of Good/Evil/Neutrality. Spoiler:
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of course I know the real answer since i've seen the image with him for all alignments so nyah! 
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:49AM
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As part of a conversation in another thread, the idea of simply answering common issues occured to me. So here I am sitting under the umbrella of "Alignment problems" in this thread, waiting for the rain to fall.
Have a specific problem with alignment or an issue understanding it? Hit me up. I'll resolve it for you. Free of charge!
What is alignment for? If I don't have to use it if I don't want to then why should I want to use it? What makes it anything more than a theft of an interesting idea from Michael Moorcock and Poul Anderson fiction that was slapped with the label of "rule" to make everyone use it? What is it really supposed to DO for D&D?
What is alignment meant to DO? It is meant to give a mechanical means by which a characters disposition in the universe can be judged. Essentially, it allows the DM, as authority, to look down upon the players and see into their souls like an omniscient being. It also systematizes things like swords that only answer the call of Good or armor that only protects those who are Evil of heart without it having to be an arbitrary call by the DM "Well I guess you're good enough to lift the sword".
As for why you should want to use it? It gives players another layer of "interesting choices" the likes of which are the heart & soul of tabletop gaming. That is to say, when someone wants to do something, a DM is able to say "Just so you know, that's an Evil act" or "That would be a very Good act to perform" and, armed with that information, the player can make a better, informed decision about it. Mind you, that requires an impartial DM that does not CARE whether an act is Evil or Good, because it is up to the player to determine WHAT they do. Choices are fun...giving a tangible methodology to weigh those choices is even more fun.
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If you challenge me, prepare to be challenged. If you have something to offer as a fellow student, I will accept it. If you call yourself a master, prepare to be humbled. If you seek me, look to the path. I will be traveling it. #SuperDungeonMasterIITurbo
My blog and stuff http://dmingtowin.blogspot.com/
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7 months ago ::
Oct 23, 2012 - 9:52AM
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..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />He only has one law he abides by. "Do not kill". Other than that, he's willing to do anything to get to his enemies. Doesn't matter what it is. Even if it breaks other existing laws.
I feel it fits the idea of a lawful evil aligned character living by a code but otherwise doing anything to get what they want.
He even goes so far as to invade the privacy of every citizen of Gotham and becomes a borderline tyrant by doing that. The only reason the system is destroyed is because Lucious Fox was too valuable an ally to lose. I have no doubt Batman would have kept that system if not for Lucious.
Also, if that blows your mind, then I have a spoiler for you...>_>
The Joker won. He got Batman to break his one rule. (He killed two-face)
Nolan's Batman is Lawful Good. He pursues justice and supports authority (particularly moral authority) while sacrificing pretty much everything for other people.
Batman's actions would only by tyrannical if they were abusive, cruel or arbitrary. They are not, therefore it is not tyranny.
Lawful Neutral. He believes in the law but has such a warped view of what the law should be (He has done some things that were by no means Good in his pursuit of vigilante justice) thus he cannot be Lawful Good. He might think he's Good but what he does often blurs the line of Good/Evil/Neutrality.
of course I know the real answer since i've seen the image with him for all alignments so nyah!
The correct answer is "Lawful Good".
Also, please guys, lets keep the major back and forth to a minimum. I'm trying to answer questions in here.
I'm on a journey of enlightenment, learning and self-improvement. A journey towards mastery. A journey that will never end.
If you challenge me, prepare to be challenged. If you have something to offer as a fellow student, I will accept it. If you call yourself a master, prepare to be humbled. If you seek me, look to the path. I will be traveling it. #SuperDungeonMasterIITurbo
My blog and stuff http://dmingtowin.blogspot.com/
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