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8 months ago ::
Oct 20, 2012 - 11:26PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 21, 2012
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I am a seventh level druid. A healer in my party. My DM is extremely into good stories and I love that about him, but he's done somethign to my character that im not sure how to deal with.
At first I wanted to be a caster in the party, and after looking through possible feats, my DM allowed me to take the Feat "Ocular Spell" (the feat to store Ray-spells in one's eyes for 8 hours and cast them as free-actions), as long as I had a good story behind them. These spells were my bread and butter, as I coupled them with the Quicken Spells feat. He asked us to take two flaws for extra feats, and since my flaws had to do with melee attacking and AC I opted to utilize "Wild Shape" to become an Eagle and escape melee combat.
So essentially, during the course of a single turn, I could utilize the feats "flyby attack" and "Natural Spell" and swoop down into casting range, fire my two free ray spells at different targets, cast my two quickened spells, then use my standard action to cast a spell all while moving from opponent to opponent and then out of harms way (provided i calculated my distance correctly and was not hit by an AoO). When my DM asked me to heal for th party, I was fine with adjusting from burst to heals, as long as i could keep my versitility. I took "scribe scroll" for the ability to cast any spell I have scribed.
Tonight my DM ustilized story to blind me. He ripped my eyes out, which stopped me from using my ocular spell feat and my scribe scroll feat. I cannot fly in bird form because I cannot see, and therefore cannot decern where I am. I cant cast touch spells because I cant move to my alies to heal them, or my enemies to damage them since, barring listen checks per turn, i dont know where they are.
TL;DR I need help figuring out what to do with a now- blind caster who cannot melee to attack and is still the groups only healer. Are there any feats I can take to continue performing my roll? Am i screwed? Honestly at a loss here.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 20, 2012 - 11:53PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 19, 2012
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Just quit the game. I know that sounds like a cut-the-knot style solution, but if I was in your position, I would be out of there. Unless you can extract some kind of promise from him that your eyes will be restored shortly. Sometimes, its a cool and useful literary device to place a formerly powerful character in a state of weakness, but in the case of a player something like that should never be permanent. Honestly, your response will partially depend on how much you trust the DM. I personally, unless I really, really trusted the DM, would pull that session over in a heartbeat and with much cursing, ask the conniving DM to explain himself, right the hell now. Arbitrarily taking away player abilities is just plain not cool.
Edit: Upon thinking about this further, I would say combo natural spell with a form that gets some form of blindsight, and note that there is no rules that prevent writing when you are blind. Realistically your character would still know the trace of the letter. You could still wildshape as a bat and unless that ocular spell feat has a specific pre-req of being able to see, it should still function. If you were going to go about circumventing the blindness, I would do that. But again, I don't think the blind druid is the real problem here, but the DM.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 21, 2012 - 7:59AM
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Nov 30, 2005
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That sounds like a DM who wants you to leave the game. I'd oblige him. The way you counter things like this when they come up is to say "I'm not really into the idea of my character's eyes being ripped out. It really lessens the fun I have with the game." If your DM says something to the effect of "too bad" you leave. If they say something like "Oh I was building to a sweet story thing at the begining of next session it will be good. bear with me." You can decide whether or not you believe the DM on that one. If so, go along with it. If not, ask that they bail on this story element. If you are concerned about still playing, use the retraining rules in PHB2 to swap your feats around.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 21, 2012 - 1:28PM
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Another recommendation for 'hit the road'. This DM is a jerk.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 21, 2012 - 6:01PM
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Sounds pretty lame to me. I'd talk to the DM and find out WTF is going on. Under no circumstances would I play a blind heal bot for a party. Either he fixes your character, lets you roll a new one or you bail.
Frankly, it sounds like he got frustrated with your tactics (I wouldnt much care for them myself), then used a cheap way for forcing you to stop, rather then saying "hey look, this whole swoop down and unload thing isn't getting it done for me...something needs to change."
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7 months ago ::
Oct 21, 2012 - 6:21PM
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With the caveat that I'm getting my information on Ocular Spell, Flyby Attack, and Quicken Spell from websites, and as such it may not be accurate ...
Ocular Spell lets you cast the two stored spells as a full-round action, and you don't get to cast the same spells all day; once they're cast, they're cast and gone until the next time you store them. This makes them not viable with Flyby Attack (which lets you take a move or standard action in the middle of another action).
And, assuming Quicken Spell works with Ocular Spell (questionable, as you can only cast one Quickened spell a round and Ocular Spell fires two), the combined level boost for those two spells is plus 6, meaning a first level spell occupies a 7th level spell slot and couldn't be used until 13th level.
So, if this information is accurate ... what you're attempting to do is neither legal, and even if it was, Using a 7th level spell slot for two 1st level spell isn't likely to be overpowered.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 22, 2012 - 8:22AM
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Oct 15, 2012
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I would first ask the DM if he has a plan for ways your player can recapture his previous powers or have new and interesting ones that take his place. If not, bolt. If so, then maybe stick with it and say what kind of interesting story lines may develop.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 22, 2012 - 10:38AM
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If you're willing to stick with it to a point, there's a way around this...just pick up a spell in the later levels that would allow you to heal your eyes (or regrow them).
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7 months ago ::
Oct 22, 2012 - 12:37PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 21, 2012
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@Salla My DM chose to deviate from the rules for his campain. I told him I wanted to play a blaster, so he made variations within the storyline (with use of the gods) to allow for me to be just as I described (essentially a specific spell could be fired from my eyes and it count as a free action, but any others would make it full-round); I also still only had 1 charge of each spell per 8 hours, so i could only pull the move I described above once every eight hours unless I had scribed a scroll for them to be stored. Perhaps he realized his mistake in letting me play this way and saught to rectify it via story?
As for regrowing my eyes, my DM made it clear that if I do I lose Ocular Spell, and must re-do the ritual to regain the feat.
In any case, my DM gives out XP at the end of every campain, so im screwed all next campain next week, and must wait an additional week to fix myself. Unless he does anything to help me as part of the story.
I will give next week a shot. The last thing my PC saw before her eyes were ripped out was her slaughtered family hanging above her by chains, dripping blood on her naked,completely paralyzed body. Then her master ripped her eyes from their sockets and insterted them into his own, bleeding sockets, grinning to the chorus of her screams. Im hoping he doesnt leave me in the dust here, its a very interesting campain, but being that im not melee, im not sure how a caster can cope blind.
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7 months ago ::
Oct 22, 2012 - 2:10PM
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@Salla My DM chose to deviate from the rules for his campain. I told him I wanted to play a blaster, so he made variations within the storyline (with use of the gods) to allow for me to be just as I described (essentially a specific spell could be fired from my eyes and it count as a free action, but any others would make it full-round); I also still only had 1 charge of each spell per 8 hours, so i could only pull the move I described above once every eight hours unless I had scribed a scroll for them to be stored. Perhaps he realized his mistake in letting me play this way and saught to rectify it via story?
Perhaps, but if this is the case, he made a huge, colossal, bone-headed, moronic mistake. He should have just approached you and said 'those houserules I made? I screwed up.' and let you re-do your character without the offending parts.
Another day, another three or four entries to my Ignore List.
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