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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 8:07PM #21
Asteron
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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It's not a matter of having enough "self-control" to hold back. Playing a Slaad will make you flat out mechanically better than the rest of your group  That BBEG? Yeah, you crushed it. That trap or challenge? Not quite a challenge to you. And that is without using your spell like abilities.

A useful piece of advice: Don't come on here asking for help and then getting snarky when the regulars on here tell you its not a good idea. They know their stuff. They've been playing 3.5 since it first came out. If they say its going to be bad, then it typically will be.

On the flip side, if his DM is allowing it, then don't take it out on him. Let him play within the rules that his DM set up for him. The only bad thing about this forum (any D&D forum, really) is that the regulars and "experts" tend to get judgemental when someone deviates. Sometimes its justified (Oma012) while other times it is not (houserules...)
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 8:18PM #22
Krazed
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2010
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We'll see how it works out, I guess. In case I didn't make it clear, I've already been playing the slaad, I just haven't taken class levels yet. It's worked fine. If the character turns out to be too OP, I'll kill him off. 
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 9:13PM #23
StevenO
Date Joined: Apr 9, 2004
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Oct 14, 2012 -- 12:56AM, Krazed wrote:

[D&D 3.5]I've never made a monster PC but I have the rare opportunity to play a slaad. It's a level 6 blue slaad but I have to level it up two times in a player class. How exactly does this work? Do I take levels 7 and 8 in a player class and follow the multiclassing rules? And what's level adjustment?

EDIT: Am I to understand my ECL is 14? 8 hit dice + 6 level adjustment. The rest of my party is level 8. But my hit points are equal to them and my damage is equal to that of the ranger in our party. If I don't take levels with them until they reach level 14 I'll be totally outmatched by them. Why is the ECL so inaccurate? How do I get around this? 


Oct 15, 2012 -- 6:48PM, Krazed wrote:

1) Who's talking about a 14th-level wizard?
2) The DM was the one who made it possible for me to play slaad through a plot twist, and we've already discussed this rule, so yeah, he's comfortable with it.
3) Don't assume me to have the same lack of self-control as those who frequent the optimization board. Just because I have the ability to build an over-powered character doesn't mean I'll do it. 



1.  You are the one who is talkinga about a "14th-level" character equivalent and I just changed it from Blue Slaad to Wizard 14.

2.  DMs can make mistakes yet not realize it until much further down the road.  Letting someone play something they really shouldn't or have something they shouldn't are some common examples.  Letting you play a Blue Slaad through a "plot twist" can maybe be compared to letting someone play a Vampire through a plot twist; they can be good for a short time but long term requires a LOT more work.

3.  I haven't said you have the lack of control of some of those who post here but I am trying to point out some of the problems that will just come from playing a character well above the rest of the group's power level.

I've quoted your first post and have been answering those questions.  Ultimately, it doesn't look like you've liked the answers you've been given and instead have latched on to the one possible houserule (one that can break things without much trouble) as justification for playing a Blue Slaad with a level 8 group.  I think we've explained "how your character should work" along with showing some of what LA means.  To answer the "Edit" portion of the top post you should understand that PC Blue Slaad IS a ECL 14 character.  Your hitpoints and damage may be equal to other 8th-level characters but that is because you didn't follow the rules for using monsters as PCs and it seems you copied down the wrong hitpoints.  I believe I showed you why the Blue Slaad's LA +6 is NOT so inaccurate.  As for getting around the Slaad's ECL I'd allow you to know one point off the LA if you use normal stats instead of hero stats but beyond that I'd just figure out some savage species style progression.

Asteron, I believe the "regulars" will assume that when questions are asked the game will be following something that is very close to the Rules As Written and answer accordingly.  As such the further you try pushing away from the RAW the more resistance you will meet but that is because we are trying to teach/present the game as it is written instead answering questions for a game that barely resembles DnD.  If houserules are presented they are usually honored although we may question why they are being used.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 02, 2012 - 10:41PM #24
Krazed
Date Joined: Jun 7, 2010
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Although this is from a long time ago, I wanted to clarify: I did not copy down the wrong hit points, the DM rolled those hit points for me using slaad HD. I stated this in an earlier post. Anyway, thanks for your help and explanation of the rules. Is there a way I could adjust my slaad to ECL 8 so I can play with the rest of the party?
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