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Oct 11, 2012 -- 2:06AM, svendj wrote:

It's cool that you actually spent a lot of time thinking about and posting your concept. It's just too bad that you've got some core concepts of the game wrong.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but you need to understand what the defender and controller role do in order to make your build function. You can read about the former here, and the latter here.
Your build isn't doing either effectively because it's too easy for paragon and epic enemies to escape from the trap you're trying to set up. Low accuracy is a big part of this problem, as is relying on difficult terrain.

It also helps the discussion to start off by listing a build and then expanding upon it. That way, we know we're all talking about the same thing. Otherwise, it just becomes (and became) a crapshoot.

Going by the responses so far, here are some things you need to think about/fix:
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- Triple stat dependency
- Accuracy
- Catch-22 (i.e. your movement denial and punishment mechanics)
- At-will optimization vs. using your more powerful encounter and daily powers (seriously, look at the Invoker's power list)
- Listing a build

Alright, I'll put a bit more time into this, it began with optimizing my at-wills mainly because my party has very long encounters

Oct 10, 2012 -- 9:52PM, Zathris wrote:

Cool pic bro!

I mean, you're making bogus assumptions about what your defenses are going to be given you only get those bonuses against targets you hit, and not only aren't you hitting many creatures, you aren't even hitting often. Trying to claim Staff of the Traveler's Propery is a Power is just flat wrong. Not to mention the problems with trying to claim Psychic Lock and creating DT qualifying as even a bad defender. So I really hope you don't post this build elsewhere, since not only are you not as optimized for defenses as possible, but are outright lying, anyone who uses this build is going to have a bad time.

But cool pic.

I know that this build is crap, I am working on it. I put things in like counting staff of the traveler's property as a power because, as I said in the brackets, some DM's make exceptions to rules. I put in other choices off of that because I knew that most DM's don't make exceptions. I understand the confusion in your other point. When I wrote (equivalent) beside the defenses, it was meant to say that you can be treated as if you had that amount of AC, not that you actually had it. In theory, I was saying, when the enemy that you hit attacks you, adding all the bonuses and penalties together, you could just say "treat me as if I had ___ AC. There are a lot of modifiers.". The DT thing is a bit of a problem. The biggest reason why it works in my party is probably because we have a bad DM who usually puts us up against  medium-large monsters with high speed but not much else. In that way, I am going to try to change my build (for the most part) completely.