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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 2:30PM #1
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 2:41PM #2
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Meh... the VA is a waste of money. We really need to get rid of it and the sub-par services it provides. A private hospital would have provided better care.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 2:52PM #3
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

A private hospital would have provided better care.



Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 2:58PM #4
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:52PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

A private hospital would have provided better care.



Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.


No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket. 

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 3:06PM #5
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:58PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:52PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

A private hospital would have provided better care.



Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.


No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket. 



Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 3:30PM #6
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:06PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:58PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:52PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

A private hospital would have provided better care.



Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.


No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket. 



Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.


How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?

Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA? 

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 4:53PM #7
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:30PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:06PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:58PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:52PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 2:41PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

A private hospital would have provided better care.



Perhaps.
It would be interesting to see if privitizing Veterans care would be cheaper than what we have now, with better services provided.


No, I mean get rid of veterans care altogether. Let them get health coverage from their new jobs or some other non-government source or pay for it out of pocket. 



Sorry no.
I can't get behind that.
I won't throw veterans under the bus.


How are you throwing them under the bus? I'm saying we get the verterans to find health insurance and health care that meets their needs in the private market. Seriously, this isn't the first time the VA has messed up some poor guy. You think some government employee knows better than the veteran what his health care needs are?

Are you actually telling me that you want them to stay in a system that is as terrible as the VA? 



No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 5:12PM #8
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That's an interesting reversal from your usual position on government spending.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 5:38PM #9
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 6:39PM #10
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 4:53PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

No, but I am saying the gov't (we taxpayers) should still cover the costs.


Why? They volunteered. No one forced them to join the military and go fight. They got paid. Once they are out, they need to get themselves jobs and health coverage. You may as well be advocating that we pay the health care costs of McDonald's employees.

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