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Flag ntman October 4, 2012 12:28 PM PDT
Looking for character creation for Lair Assault.
8th level Revenant Blackguard for Lair Assault.
All ideas are welcomed.. good or bad..

Thanks in advance. 
Flag Planeswalker817 October 4, 2012 3:13 PM PDT
Step 1: community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...

Step 2:  Build own rough draft character.

Step 3:  Post results and request help tweaking and suggestions.

Step 4:  Receive actual help instead of snark. 
Flag erachima October 4, 2012 3:25 PM PDT
If you're open to bad suggestions, then I propose playing a Blackguard
Flag ntman October 4, 2012 3:52 PM PDT
@ Planeswalker  - I've read the build you just posted, I guess I shoud have been more specific..
I was looking for a Lair Assault Build that has been tested rather than use an opt-character.

@ erachima - You pretty much answered my question, I will be moving on to something else.

Thanks for both the replys.


Flag ohgoditburns October 5, 2012 9:31 AM PDT
I disagree that blackguard (well.. hybrid blackguard at least) is bad for lair assault.

Pixie blackguard|executioner with bless weapon and a charge kit can bring some serious pain. Take majestic halo as your D1, and now you're pretty much a full paladin too. 
Flag ArelOfAikala October 5, 2012 12:24 PM PDT
With the slight problem that a Warlock|Executioner is downright better.
Flag ohgoditburns October 5, 2012 4:17 PM PDT
For multiple encounters, yeah. For a signle encounter lair assault? No. Warlock has more support, but you don't have enough feats in heroic to take advantage of it. 

Blackguard has got +8 damage with CA (trivial to get) against any enemy. It can get another 1d6 from its U2 or +cha to yourself and all allies with its U6.  Warlock has 2d6 with a feat (ave. 7). Warlock has better encounter powers, but encounters are weighted less in this format. 

And the dailies? Warlock is a little superior in this regard, but I think in total, it comes out as a wash. 
Flag Planeswalker817 October 6, 2012 10:50 AM PDT

Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:52PM, ntman wrote:

@ Planeswalker  - I've read the build you just posted, I guess I shoud have been more specific..
I was looking for a Lair Assault Build that has been tested rather than use an opt-character.




Seeing as what I posted was a guide, not a build, I sincerely doubt you did.

Flag flanagan.ffs October 6, 2012 2:17 PM PDT
The current Lair Assault season severely limits the options of a lot of builds, because players may only be drow, or revenants with a past life of drow.  That nixes the Pixie Hybrid Blackguard|Executioner, and without Pixie charge cheese, the Blackguard|Executioner loses a lot of steam.

There was another thread trying to explore the options for a Lair Assault avenger, running up against the same issue that avengers lose a lot of steam if you're race-restricted like the current LA is.
Flag mellored October 6, 2012 6:30 PM PDT
If your going to use revenent cheese, you might as well pick a weaker class.
Flag ntman October 6, 2012 8:53 PM PDT
Well,
I ended up toying with this idea anyways and this is what I came up with for a single-shot Lair Assault run.

====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======
Sir Dredge, level 8
Revenant, Paladin (Blackguard)
Vice: Vice of Domination
Choose your Race in Life: Drow
Arcane Agent (Stealth class skill)
Theme: Black-Hearted Knave
 
FINAL ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 12, DEX 15, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 16
 
STARTING ABILITY SCORES
STR 18, CON 10, DEX 11, INT 10, WIS 8, CHA 14
 
 
AC: 27 Fort: 21 Ref: 20 Will: 20
HP: 69 Surges: 11 Surge Value: 17
 
TRAINED SKILLS
Athletics +11, Religion +9, Stealth +11, Thievery +9
 
UNTRAINED SKILLS
Acrobatics +4, Arcana +4, Bluff +7, Diplomacy +7, Dungeoneering +3, Endurance +5, Heal +3, History +4, Insight +3, Intimidate +9, Nature +3, Perception +3, Streetwise +7
 
POWERS
Basic Attack: Melee Basic Attack
Basic Attack: Ranged Basic Attack
Black-Hearted Knave Attack: Treacherous Advantage
Revenant Utility: Dark Reaping
Paladin Attack: Dread Smite
Paladin Utility: Shroud of Shadow
Paladin Utility: Servant of Vice
Paladin Attack 1: Vengeance Strike
Paladin Attack 1: Dominator's Strike
Paladin Utility 2: Vice's Reward
Paladin Attack 5: Dark Majesty
Paladin Utility 6: Aspect of Domination
 
FEATS
Level 1: Two-Weapon Fighting
Level 2: Two-Handed Weapon Expertise
Level 4: Two-Weapon Defense
Level 6: Two-Weapon Threat
Level 8: Weapon Proficiency (Urgrosh)
 
ITEMS
Ebon Plate Armor +2 x1
Cloak of Resistance +2 x1
Savage Mask x1
Potion of Healing
Adventurer's Kit
Boots of Stealth (heroic tier) x1
Urgrosh of Defense +2 x1
====== End ======
Flag ohgoditburns October 8, 2012 11:08 AM PDT

Oct 6, 2012 -- 2:17PM, flanagan.ffs wrote:

The current Lair Assault season severely limits the options of a lot of builds, because players may only be drow, or revenants with a past life of drow.  That nixes the Pixie Hybrid Blackguard|Executioner, and without Pixie charge cheese, the Blackguard|Executioner loses a lot of steam.

There was another thread trying to explore the options for a Lair Assault avenger, running up against the same issue that avengers lose a lot of steam if you're race-restricted like the current LA is.


I totally forgot about that. Assuming one encounter, you can regain it by taking the primordial adept theme and picking vezzuzu's eruption, combined with the feat terrain advantage (instead of streak of light).

I'm sure there are some less cludgy ways to get persistent CA also. 

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