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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:35AM #1
The_Fred
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
Posts: 3,088
Is there a list anywhere of feats which count as others for the purposes of meeting prereqs?

So far we have:
Combat Reflexes - Evasive Reflexes [ToB]
Dodge - Desert Wind Dodge [ToB], Expeditious Dodge [RotW], Mightnight Dodge [MoI]
Endurance: Kobold Endurance [RotD?]
Power Attack - Stone Power [ToB]
Psionic Meditation [XPH] - Instant Clarity [ToB]
Toughness - Azure Toughness [MoI]
Weapon Finesse - Shadow Blade [ToB]

And maybe one or two more. I always think that the Cerulean feats from MoI count as Iron Will/Great Fort/Lightning Ref but alas they don't. Just wondering if there were any more, it'd often be handy to know.

EDIT: Updated the list. Seems interesting to note how many of these come from ToB, or MoI. Signifies something of a shift in philosophy, I think.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 9:27AM #2
frost.fire
Date Joined: Aug 24, 2012
Posts: 274
Would improved toughness count as toughness, or wouldn't it because it is up to dm fiat
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 9:27AM #3
The_Fred
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
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It wouldn't (though many DMs would allow it to, I think) since it doesn't actually say so.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 9:36AM #4
RadicalTaoist
Date Joined: Aug 17, 2004
Posts: 2,531
Expeditious Dodge from Races of the Wild can also be used in place of Dodge.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 3:09PM #5
The_Fred
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
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I'd heard that one too but I couldn't remember where it came from.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 9:10PM #6
Slagger_the_Chuul
Date Joined: May 26, 2001
Posts: 5,167
I've formalized this in my own campaign by designating the existing feats of this type as "substitute" feats (and adding some, including Improved Toughness and a few of my homebrew feats).  The official feat substitutions of which I'm aware are:

Combat Reflexes: Evasive Reflexes
Dodge: Desert Wind Dodge, Expeditious Dodge, Midnight Dodge
Endurance: Kobold Endurance
Power Attack: Stone Power
Psionic Meditation: Instant Clarity
Toughness: Azure Toughness
Weapon Finesse: Shadow Blade
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 10:00AM #7
The_Fred
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
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Great.

If there isn't a community list already, I might make this in to one, actually. 
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 1:17PM #8
Maat_Mons
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2005
Posts: 1,522
This is the best I can turn up.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 1:49PM #9
The_Fred
Date Joined: Jan 4, 2012
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Ah, that's great! Looks like there aren't that many of them after all, though.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2012 - 3:19PM #10
awaken_D_M_golem
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2006
Posts: 2,655
Oriental Adventures ... has a small pile
of feats and class features that "count as".

I haven't had access to Dr#318 for a long time,
so idk wtf the OA updates have changed.
my kitty avatar's Royale Lineage ---> http://static.neatorama.com/images/2009-09/original-keyboard-cats.jpg

new helpful bg/mmx refugee locale ---> http://www.ruleofcool.com/smf/index.php/topic,632.0.html
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