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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 12:31PM #71
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Oct 6, 2012 -- 1:15PM, ToeSama wrote:

Going with a system is fine, as long as everyone's having fun. Going with the flow is fine, as long as everyone's having fun. As long as we're all having fun, seems a silly thing to worry about to me...


The only people I'm actually interested in advising are the people who come here looking for help. They are not having fun, or at least not as much as they think they should be having. If the "system" they're using might be part of why they're not having fun (as I'm finding has been the case for me) then I'll offer alternatives, or things to tweak about their own system, that might increase their fun.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 2:36PM #72
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:08PM, iserith wrote:

I'd change them from warm to cold-blooded to blue-blooded and back again if that's what I needed to do to help the PCs have a shot at a cool plan working.


For me, this is as much of an extreme (and just as undesirable) as the DM who has fashioned a storyline so inflexible that it is better for the players to simply ask the DM what he wants them to do.

I would like to be in an Iserith-DMed game at some point, because I suspect (hope) that his methods in practice are not as "whatever you want" as he seems to be presenting in the many threads.

Here are the PHB essentia, in my opinion:
  • Three Basic Rules (p 11)
  • Power Types and Usage (p 54)
  • Skills (p178-179)
  • Feats (p 192)
  • Rest and Recovery (p 263)
  • All of Chapter 9 [Combat] (p 264-295)

A player needs to read the sections for building his or her character -- race, class, powers, feats, equipment, etc. But those are PC-specific. The above list is for everyone, regardless of the race or class or build or concept they are playing.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 2:39PM #73
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Who's to say that all lizardmen are warm or cold blooded?  Could vary by location pretty easily.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 2:41PM #74
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 2:36PM, Seeker95 wrote:

For me, this is as much of an extreme (and just as undesirable) as the DM who has fashioned a storyline so inflexible that it is better for the players to simply ask the DM what he wants them to do.




Humorously extreme, some might say.

Oct 8, 2012 -- 2:36PM, Seeker95 wrote:

I suspect (hope) that his methods in practice are not as "whatever you want" as he seems to be presenting in the many threads.




It's "whatever we all need it to be."

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 6:33PM #75
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 12:31PM, Centauri wrote:

Oct 6, 2012 -- 1:15PM, ToeSama wrote:

Going with a system is fine, as long as everyone's having fun. Going with the flow is fine, as long as everyone's having fun. As long as we're all having fun, seems a silly thing to worry about to me...


The only people I'm actually interested in advising are the people who come here looking for help. They are not having fun, or at least not as much as they think they should be having. If the "system" they're using might be part of why they're not having fun (as I'm finding has been the case for me) then I'll offer alternatives, or things to tweak about their own system, that might increase their fun.




Comment was more meant to dull the useless arguing down.

Didn't work so well -_-

Course it's all been removed since...

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 6:46PM #76
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In my world lizard-men work like my giants in that they are "soulless" so they are not part of the standard wheel of life cycle in the universe...so gods do not invest in them. Instead lizard-men worship dragons and the element they embody. This gives them no direct benefit other than spirituality in their lives...however, there is a fairly consistent division between cold-blooded lizard men that are overwhelmingly evil and their warm-blooded counter-parts that are generally non-evil.

So, basically, my warm-blooded lizard men are less overtly "reptilian"...they are less at the mercy of the elements and so have had a better outlook on existence which in turn has made them more open to interaction with other races. The cold-blooded lizard men are the opposite...still possessed of a very "reptilian" brain...aggressive, simple fight/flight oriented and vicious.

This also means that their environments tend to be different...warm-blooded lizard men have no problem living in colder climates helping survive there alongside humans and other races where trading and such becomes very important. They take life at a slower pace. On the flip-side, the cold-blooded lizard men tend to inhabit the jungles and deserts of my world and are as wicked as evil, intelligent raptors with a tribal culture.

So...basically...when in doubt...do both!
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2012 - 12:16PM #77
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Oct 5, 2012 -- 5:52PM, LunarSavage wrote:

I like building a world with rules and sticking to those rules. To break the rules/consistency of the world I create, even if I haven't stated these rules to the players to make them set in stone, is wrong. 


I'm having a hard time getting my head around this perspective. Since this comment is 4 days old, starting a new thread.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2012 - 3:38PM #78
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 2:39PM, Salla wrote:

Who's to say that all lizardmen are warm or cold blooded?  Could vary by location pretty easily.




It is fantasy, after all.

Apr 24, 2013 -- 5:56AM, Zombie_Babies wrote:

We summoned a devil once.  All we used was the D&D books, too.  It was pretty kwazy.


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May 21, 2013 -- 2:04PM, awaken_D_M_golem wrote:

Why do I get a silly PG-13 man giggle going everytime I see Fist Of The Forest ?



May 24, 2013 -- 1:59PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:

May 24, 2013 -- 1:00PM, Zombie_Babies wrote:



May 24, 2013 -- 10:24AM, Hipster_Dog wrote:

I heard samsung is making shoes that are making you run faster too.



Liar.  Hipsters don't run.  It's too mainstream.



Dec 26, 2012 -- 8:51AM, mellored wrote:

Dec 25, 2012 -- 2:37PM, Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote:

Actually, Santa just didn't like you. However, you weren't on the Naughty List, so he had to give you something "better" than coal.

I'd take coal.  Heating your house is expesive, and engery cost arn't going down.

Mabey if i beat enough homeless people, i won't have to be cold this year.



May 10, 2013 -- 4:33PM, YagamiFire wrote:

May 10, 2013 -- 3:34PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:

"Heroes"...I wish I had those. I remember in my first-ever campaign one PC went around shootin all the unconscious baddies in the head to gain Dark Side Points...



Whaaaaaat?!??

Wow...way to waste perfectly good potential slaves.

Er...no wait I mean..uh...something not evil!



(Quotes screwed up on the next one, won't give the poster's name. It's in the Best Lines thread on the D&D forum)


First, an experience from a game I played in a few years back. Our DM didn't like 3.5 as a whole but liked parts of it. So he hands us a big ass rules packet for his modified FR campaign, complete with quotes from important NPC's on the front. I can't remember most of the HRs, just that some how gods like Cyric and Bhaal existed at the same time, despite the obvious problems there. In the end the game became a problem more because of the railroading than the HRs, but it ended with this classic line, after our ranger tried to disarm the strange woman following us WITH HIS BOW: DM: You just killed (insert random noble sounding name here) JP: Was she important? Jack: Dude, she's quoted on the front of the rules packet!


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Sep 6, 2012 -- 8:29PM, richterbelmont10 wrote:


"Excellent."

-Mr. Burns.


Apr 24, 2013 -- 6:01PM, Hipster_Dog wrote:



Whey is a crotch.




Sep 15, 2008 -- 1:23PM, d20_radio wrote:

Cut the last encounter on your way out after dealing with the Darth. He's the BBEG. Treat him as such. Play up that Darth Revan is THAT much of a badarse. When the shuttle landed, I had no less than 13 JEDI MASTERS step off the shuttle. The PCs were slack-jawed. After the meetup with Bastila (as she's carrying Revan's body), only TWO jedi masters remained with her. Let me tell you, the player whining about not getting to fight Revan himself shut up pretty quickly when he saw that.






Feb 11, 2013 -- 1:09PM, ChainmailJedi wrote:


There's so much you can do with insanity, especially when it has alot of resources.



Sep 22, 2012 -- 3:05PM, TheOneWhoCallCrow wrote:

1. Cleric cast protection from fire on Tank.
2. Tank goes in and get surrounded by enemies.
3. Wizard cast fireball and blows them up.
4. ???
5. Profit

I go by the saying," If it ain't friendly fire then it's not working."



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May 24, 2013 -- 2:46PM, CorranHornIsAwesome wrote:

I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas.

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