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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 7:36AM
#201
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All creatures were made by gods who shortly after the creation withdrew from the world to watch the action on their awesome new big screen HDTV. Cast: Detect Good == True. The various peoples of the world had to organize to survive and the simplest way was to follow the strongest, smartest leader whose ancestors mythologized them into a divinely chosen progenitor. The various races discovered subtle magics at different times. The slowest to discover them were the humans who were always a very practical race not given to naval gazing. While other races were busy meditating on deep mysteries, humans got busy killing. Humans discover the existence of magic in other races and the magical arms race begins.
I don't find a way to comment this post without feeling antagonistic. Except maybe that it's not constructive at all.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 7:49AM
#202
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Please, tell me how a world with access to magic from early ages, as there were intelligent races before humans (our system of reference), with the option to categorize people without any risk of error (alignments are objective forces), can evolve into these familiar feudal system we see in D&D ?
The alignment system is not at fault, it is the Detect Alignment magic that is. Just remove that.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 8:03AM
#203
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In my world a major empire worships a pantheon consisting of dieties corresponding to Pelor (NG), Heironeous (LG) and Hextor (LE).
The people generally worship Pelor while the nobility worships his two sons (Heiron LG and Hector LE).
Both groups of nobles believe that their position is god-given, that they are to rule the commoners. They differ however on why.
Roughly the LG ones believe that the nobility exist for the sake of the people, to keep the order and promote a good society. The LE ones believe that they people is there for the nobles, in order to permit a good society.
Both of them would prefer LN over CG or CN, because they see their position, the feudal system and the hierarchy as holy.
The LE ones roughly consider Lawfulness to be synonymous to the word "Good" and Good to be synonymous with "weak". Thus, both groups will claim to be Good. They accuse the LG ones to be too soft and unable to make the hard choices for the "common good" (like harder and more brutal action against rebels and criminals)
No individual in the game world knows for certain what alignment any other character has.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:21PM
#204
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Date Joined:
Nov 19, 2011
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Please, tell me how a world with access to magic from early ages, as there were intelligent races before humans (our system of reference), with the option to categorize people without any risk of error (alignments are objective forces), can evolve into these familiar feudal system we see in D&D ?
The alignment system is not at fault, it is the Detect Alignment magic that is. Just remove that.
That removes a lot of flavor for some people, me included, and is completely unnecessary.
Instead, make Alignment Detection abilities require a check:
Idea 1: Make each character have an innate detection DC, based on his/her highest mental stat + character/caster levels.
Idea 2: Just make the whole "spell requires a saving throw" thing apply to detection spells too.
Those ideas solve the believability problem while at the same time adding flavor as opposed to removing it. They are also easy to ignore by those that don't use alignment.
My character is called Ryotto Tyrannicide, wich comes from "tyrannicidal riot".
He wields two magic swords: King Beheader (as in "Beheader of Kings", not "King the Beheader") and Chain Splitter. He's also a bit of a skirt-chaser.
So yeah, I REALLY hope you have some Lawful Evil bad guys prepared for me. Government/trade/church conspiracies are optional, but highly recommended.
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