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8 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2012 - 5:28AM #61
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:23AM, lokiare wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:18AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 4:59AM, lokiare wrote:

Do you have any articles that actually have studies listed and/or deal with the actual facts presented in the documentary?



Do you?
And if I did, you would just dismiss them.




Yes I would dismiss them with facts and logic.




You talking about facts and logic!
That's rich!

At any rate, I just posted 4 articles that demonstarte your belief about fraking is wrong... and you dismissed them out of hand because they don't fit what you want to be true.
*shrug*


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2012 - 5:33AM #62
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:23AM, lokiare wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:17AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Get your head outta your ass lokiare.




You realize that personal attacks are against the CoC right?



Has that ever stopped me before?

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2012 - 5:35AM #63
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 4:59AM, lokiare wrote:

Do you have any articles that actually have studies listed and/or deal with the actual facts presented in the documentary?



Well, there's the rub.
Your "documentary" contains very little "facts", as the links I posted demonstarte.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2012 - 12:03PM #64
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:23AM, lokiare wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:17AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Get your head outta your ass lokiare.




You realize that personal attacks are against the CoC right?



Has that ever stopped me before?



Stopped? No. Slowed down? Pfft, it's barely a speed bump.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 13, 2012 - 12:15PM #65
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:03PM, Escef wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:23AM, lokiare wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:17AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Get your head outta your ass lokiare.




You realize that personal attacks are against the CoC right?



Has that ever stopped me before?



Stopped? No. Slowed down? Pfft, it's barely a speed bump.



I will take that as a compliment.

And I'm surprised lokiare hasn't been back, trying to convince me that his "documentary" contains "facts"...

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 14, 2012 - 4:22PM #66
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Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:15PM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 12:03PM, Escef wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:33AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:23AM, lokiare wrote:

Oct 13, 2012 -- 5:17AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Get your head outta your ass lokiare.




You realize that personal attacks are against the CoC right?



Has that ever stopped me before?



Stopped? No. Slowed down? Pfft, it's barely a speed bump.



I will take that as a compliment.

And I'm surprised lokiare hasn't been back, trying to convince me that his "documentary" contains "facts"...




It does. While the film maker might have been wrong on a few counts, that's what you get when you don't have professionals telling the truth...

The documentary does provide facts, including where they have fraked, what chemicals are used in fraking, and several people with complaints about fraking (whether they know what they are complaining about or not). I'm sure there's more but its been a awhile since I've seen it. There are other legitimate concerns about fraking not covered in the documentary like what happens to the ground water when several tons of chemicals are pumped into the ground?

I like how 2 of your links were nearly identical (looked like copy and paste jobs to me) and the other one only had one topic to nit pick at, one which while they were right wasn't known to the film maker because they are not a professional researcher, just a concerned citizen with a camera and some cash to burn...

Once you realize the guy wasn't a professional film maker, reporter, or researcher, maybe you can put what he showed in perspective.

Its also interesting to note that some fraking operations coincide with earthquakes, but there isn't any solid evidence that they cause them...Smile

Start showing some facts to counter facts and maybe we can talk...

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 14, 2012 - 8:52PM #67
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Oct 14, 2012 -- 4:22PM, lokiare wrote:

The documentary does provide facts, including where they have fraked, what chemicals are used in fraking, and several people with complaints about fraking (whether they know what they are complaining about or not).


Really? I thought those chemicals were industry/company secrets. Haven't they been fighting having to disclose what chemicals and how much of each chemical they use?

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 2:15AM #68
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Oct 14, 2012 -- 8:52PM, homicidal_squirrel wrote:

Oct 14, 2012 -- 4:22PM, lokiare wrote:

The documentary does provide facts, including where they have fraked, what chemicals are used in fraking, and several people with complaints about fraking (whether they know what they are complaining about or not).


Really? I thought those chemicals were industry/company secrets. Haven't they been fighting having to disclose what chemicals and how much of each chemical they use?




Yes, they have, but you can find out in the patents and various white papers they are required to release as well as samples of the chemicals that they use having been analyzed...Smile

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