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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 7:33AM #41
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 7:36AM #42
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.

Stop reading those enviro-weenie and liberal propaganda/ dis-information sites broski.
And why do you want people to pay more for power?
Why do you want to keep the US from developing its own energy resources?
Why do you want people to freeze in the winter?


And senseless attacks picked up on radio shows again.

You just hate people.


Because they refuse me as their god-emperor.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:11AM #43
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:21AM #44
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:52AM #45
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:21AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 



Right.
If we let it happen... you know, after it is proven to supply the need and be cost-effective.
But not if we attempt to force it to happen just because we wish it.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:57AM #46
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:52AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:21AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 



Right.
If we let it happen... you know, after it is proven to supply the need and be cost-effective.
But not if we attempt to force it to happen just because we wish it.



You mean like forcing travelling to the moon or the manhattan project?

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 10:27AM #47
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:57AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:52AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:21AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 



Right.
If we let it happen... you know, after it is proven to supply the need and be cost-effective.
But not if we attempt to force it to happen just because we wish it.



You mean like forcing travelling to the moon or the manhattan project?



Those worked.
Right now, solar, wind, etc is not working, ie. not supplying the demand at reasonable cost.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 10:30AM #48
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 10:27AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:57AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:52AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:21AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 



Right.
If we let it happen... you know, after it is proven to supply the need and be cost-effective.
But not if we attempt to force it to happen just because we wish it.



You mean like forcing travelling to the moon or the manhattan project?



Those worked.
Right now, solar, wind, etc is not working, ie. not supplying the demand at reasonable cost.



The bomb and going to the moon didn't happen in a overnight, sweety. 

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 11:25AM #49
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 10:30AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 10:27AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:57AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:52AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:21AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:11AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:36AM, Hipster_Cat wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 7:15AM, Robin_Hoodlum wrote:

Fraking causes less damage than coal mining.


Something solar, tides, wind, etc, won't do and won't releae carbon in the atmosphere.




Too bad those can't produce a fraction of the energy we need and cost quite a bit more as well.
Try again.



They can produce a majority, if you let it happen. 



Right.
If we let it happen... you know, after it is proven to supply the need and be cost-effective.
But not if we attempt to force it to happen just because we wish it.



You mean like forcing travelling to the moon or the manhattan project?



Those worked.
Right now, solar, wind, etc is not working, ie. not supplying the demand at reasonable cost.



The bomb and going to the moon didn't happen in a overnight, sweety. 



But those didn't put undue cost and hardship on the general populace, did they?
Your energy prices didn't escalate because of those, did they?
Those things didn't take what is available and cheap, turn it into harder to get and expensive, and then offer another way that is even more expensive and less reliable, did they?



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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 11:41AM #50
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But they did cost the general pulbic something. Lots of tax money. 

As for hardship, well there is that argument you've been ignoring for the entire thread. That is that climate change causes and will cause hardship. There is a cost to those cheap energy sources. The problem is just seeing one column, price of coal for example, and not seeing how a lot of stuff is interelated.

Think of your family tree to understand.
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